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Afghanistan will be a repeat of the last days of Saigon.
My fertile mind ^ | 12 Aug 2021 | Fightin Kentuckian

Posted on 08/12/2021 4:08:21 PM PDT by fightin kentuckian

This is my personal opinion therefore it's worth nothing at all, BUT am I the only person who sees Afghani's storming the US Embassy compound in Kabul wanting to flee with the last of the US military personnel in a few weeks or months?


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; rop; taliban; vanity; waronterror
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Days to weeks…bloodbath coming to many afghanis…


21 posted on 08/12/2021 4:57:28 PM PDT by TnTnTn
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To: House Atreides

Spent a year in Danang 1967-68. Also, 8 months off the coast on an LPH.

The North Vietnamese violated the peace treaty and we did nothing about it. We snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.


22 posted on 08/12/2021 5:00:51 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

It has been US policy ever since.


23 posted on 08/12/2021 5:04:25 PM PDT by vis a vis
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To: fightin kentuckian

It will be a repeat of itself. We invaded Afghanistan because it was a base of operations for the terrorists that perpetrated 9/11, with the Taliban in control. Now the Taliban is in control again, so it was all for nothing.


24 posted on 08/12/2021 5:04:47 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Ouderkirk
The US should have never gone in there.

Ditto - those who forget the past, are doomed to repeat it

25 posted on 08/12/2021 5:05:25 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: ThanhPhero

Afghanistan is going to back to the same exact thing it was before November 2001.

A phony theocracy where the leadership made money growing opium, turning it into heroin and shipping it all over the world.

The people will go back to living the same way they were before and folks will have their heads cut off or shot in the head, in front of their families.

Only now, some of the younger ones taking over have a little more technical know-how and have cultivated relationships with China and Russia.

The thing to do is get everyone out, shut down the embassy and expel all the Afghani diplomats that are in the US. Of course, they’ll all ask for political asylum, probably get it, when they should be taken to Dulles and put on the first thing headed to Dubai. Let them deal with it from there.


26 posted on 08/12/2021 5:20:53 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: Telepathic Intruder
We invaded Afghanistan because it was a base of operations for the terrorists that perpetrated 9/11, with the Taliban in control. Now the Taliban is in control again, so it was all for nothing.

There's a reason the country is referred to as "the graveyard of empires"...

27 posted on 08/12/2021 5:25:28 PM PDT by Captain Walker ("The side that has Truth gets Humor as a bonus.")
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To: RetiredArmy

You’re right.

I’m a VN combat vet and 50 years ago I’d never have believed that I would ever buy a good winter coat made in Vietnam.

But I’ll choose something made in Vietnam over something made in China.


28 posted on 08/12/2021 5:27:04 PM PDT by laplata
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To: fightin kentuckian

Many retired generals and colonels agree with you.


29 posted on 08/12/2021 5:30:30 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: ThanhPhero

Good insight.

The Vietnamese are light years ahead of the Muslim savages in Afghanistan.


30 posted on 08/12/2021 5:34:41 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: alloysteel
Just tell the Chicom PLA they can have all the women or brides they want, just kill all the brothers, fathers, uncles or husbands of the Afghan women, put those women in brothels, and take some of the more comely or compliant home as war brides.

They have already been promised that in Taiwan...and California.

The Chinese will be much smarter than the Soviet Union and the United States: they will just pay off the Taliban for "security services" then move in and start extracting resources. No need to waste money fighting another war.

31 posted on 08/12/2021 5:50:41 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: fightin kentuckian

Myself, I think Biden is going to repeat Iran or Benghazi but this time with hundreds or thousands of Americans butchered by the Muslims.


32 posted on 08/12/2021 6:06:19 PM PDT by MercyFlush ( According to the New York Times "Freedom" is an anti-government slogan. )
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To: ThanhPhero
Afghanistan may look like the “Last Days of Sa5i Go5n” to some but the Taliban will not develop the way the Communists developed in Việt Nam. the Vietnamese are practical people, Moslems are, by and large, not. Once the old revolutionaries in VN died off the younger men looked and saw that collectivization was not working. They also knew that Việt Nam had to get rich to avoid becoming a province of China. They dumped the collectivization and turned famine into massive rice exports in two years. Over the past twenty years Việt Nam has become ever more prosperous as these people who are born doing business were allowed to do business. Việt Nam is now an ally to America in SEA. Taliban Afghanistan will never be an ally of a non Sunni nation. America did not have the desire to conquer and own Afghanistan but China does.

I know, it is interesting that Vietnam is more of an ally now. Also, under President Trump, a lot of manufacturing left Red China and some ended up in Vietnam. My Bearcat BCD325P2 police scanner was made in Vietnam. Afghanistan is a lost cause, unless you are willing to be ruthless and shoot anything that moves, carpet bomb the place or just nuke it, there is really no way it can be conquered. Queen Victoria's finest could not do it, the Soviets could not, we could not. If Red China moves in, well, I'd like to see the Taliban (as much as I think they are wrong) give them a punch in the nose and knock them down a few pegs. I'm very dubious and wary of the Islamic faith like many here and rightly so, but the way they treat the Uyghurs, it is very brutal and wrong and they must pay for genocide. Red China could take our place as the Great Satan.
33 posted on 08/12/2021 6:39:08 PM PDT by MrLucky1966 (GOVT.SYS CORRUPTED! RUN GUN.COM? (Y/Y) GUN.COM NOT FOUND, EXECUTE BASEBALL.BAT? (Y/Y))
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To: NWFree

They will make us look like the fools we are—we shouldn’t have tried “Nation Building”—It doesn’t work any better than the Soviets trying to make them communists. They will make Biden appear like a bumbling failure (not hard) and embolden Russia to move west, China to seize Taiwan, and Iran to capture Sumer. Look to see North Korea to become active again as well.


34 posted on 08/12/2021 7:52:45 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( ALWAYS GO FORWARD AND NEVER GO BACK.)
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To: fightin kentuckian

Picture the successful American occupation and reconstruction of Germany, Japan and South Korea. Now picture the Biden regime as an occupying force, benevolently installing a democratic republican form of government.


35 posted on 08/12/2021 8:25:09 PM PDT by nagant
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To: laplata

Me also. I see tons of stuff in various stores made in Nam now. I agree, I am sick of lousy made Red China crap. They are even making drugs, our computer chips, you name it, they are making it and selling it to us and the money goes to the Red Chinese People Commie Army and Navy. WE, yes, the wonderful citizens of this Republic, ARE FUNDING AND BUILDING THE RED CHINESE SUPER SUBMARINES AND AIRCRAFT CARRIERS, to carry the exact, plans stolen from the USA, aircraft, looks just like ours, runs like ours, and a lot of the technology came right out of Slick Willie Klinton and his ugly fat @$$ wife, the Beast!!


36 posted on 08/13/2021 2:48:57 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Free Will. GOD gives you the choice I accept or reject Him! Choose Him. It depends on you.)
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To: RetiredArmy

BINGO!!!!!!


37 posted on 08/14/2021 8:20:58 AM PDT by laplata
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To: MrLucky1966

P.S. Nor will Afghanisan ever modernize to be useful as an ally beyond materiel they are given by advanced nations.
China when it enters will go in differently. China will establish defended enclaves with protected roads and airfields in order to extract the valuable minerals with which Afghanistan is abundantly blessed. China will “keep the peace” by occasional or regular raids that annihilate a village or a fighting force then return to the enclaves so that fear is what keeps the perimeters safer. China will not engage in Nation Building. China will engage in Terror.


38 posted on 08/14/2021 4:26:07 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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