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Legal Question: While Vaccine Manufacturers are Protected Legally from Liability, Employers and Governments Requiring a Vaccine Are NOT Legally Protected?
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Posted on 08/12/2021 2:26:17 AM PDT by tired&retired

My question relates to damages caused by a vaccine. If the employer requires the vaccine to maintain employment, are they then liable for damages resulting from the vaccine?

I understand that it would be considered a workman's comp covered event.


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To: Travis McGee

Great point!

Meanwhile, many many people claiming to be “in the know” like the MTv/Tik Tok star who was creeping around the White House the other day in a PSA are begging EVERYONE to get the jab because you know, the delta variant etc etc.

They will not suffer any consequences, though.


61 posted on 08/12/2021 6:55:53 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: tired&retired
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62 posted on 08/12/2021 7:14:09 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Tuitio Fidei et Obsequium Pauperum)
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To: Travis McGee

Helpful post.

But what about when FDA rubber stamps approval as it being full up approved and not experimental?

What about the military?


63 posted on 08/12/2021 7:19:59 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

They might have done themselves a favor and not included pictures of so many chinese looking people in their web site.

It immediately raised my alert.


64 posted on 08/12/2021 8:11:07 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: tired&retired

I think what you understand is wishful but I”m not a lawyer and that really does not matter because resolution would require a legal argument. Even the lawyers do not know the outcome of that.

We live in a legalistic but lawless society in my opinion. Intent and spirit are just ignored when they are inconvenient. The attitude is that may not be legal but prove me wrong. Burden of proof is on the accuser of course and the inability to win the argument of proof is what the lawless bank on. Right and wrong don’t make a damn bit of difference what the lawless can get away with is all that matters. Right and wrong only matter if both parties have self-imposed moral / ethical limitations. Outside of that, let the games begin.

The law only forms the framework for litigation and the ensuing argument determines the applicability and violation of the law. Just as in contracts, if either party does not abide by the contract in the opinion of the other party culpability is determined by the court. Bottom line of this is to avoid entering into contracts with a belligerent if at all possible.

Furthermore, the giverment is in on this up to their pointy head. They want the FDA approval, they want everyone to be vaccinated regardless of efficacy or even morality. That could not be more clear to me. They make the laws and the law is not a problem for them. They will continue to make the laws and control us until we stop them.

If FDA rubber stamp approves any of these vaccines every “legal” and ethical argument including Nuremberg and Hippocratic Oath are not worth much more than the paper they are written on. Moral arguments do not matter to the court or the giverment or the employer. After that approval by FDA it seems the burden of proof becomes intentional and knowing endangerment. I doubt seriously you could win that one if the defendant has the official FDA okey dokey in hand. Of course the giverment knows this and that is why they are hell bent for leather to clear the decks of resistance with FDA approval.

The only thing I see that can stop enforced vaccinations is public outcry and the politicians getting nervous about their phoney baloney jobs to raise red flags of threats against it or refusal damn the consequences. If politicians allow this to go forward, just like the nazis, the only way to beat them is to win the war against them by force if necessary.


65 posted on 08/12/2021 8:40:47 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: Sequoyah101

There is at least one freeper that I respect that works for T-Detect. The problem for me to use it I didn’t have covid in the past 8 months or what ever they can detect.


66 posted on 08/12/2021 12:24:23 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Our group is interesting.

I think I had it in June last year. I’d like to find out if I have antibodies.


67 posted on 08/12/2021 2:40:52 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: Travis McGee
So it would seem that we would need to ignore the Constitution, ignore judicial precedence, ignore rationality and common sense and ignore basic human decency in order to provide "perfect safety" from the communist chinese virus.

What is unbelievable is that there are many, if not most of those in positions of authority and power who are prepared and willing to do just this for whatever personal, political or esoteric reason(s) they may have.

Can this be so? ... Or could it be that I am just suffering a momentary psychotic episode inflicted on me by the chinese evil spirit, covid?

68 posted on 08/12/2021 2:50:50 PM PDT by glennaro (Dennis Prager: "Until it's safe" means "Never")
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To: Sequoyah101

It’s like filing a legal claim against the 3rd Reich in 1944.

You won’t get satisfaction until the Nuremberg Trials.

But put it on the record, officially, anyway.


69 posted on 08/12/2021 2:55:55 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Alberta's Child

GFY, Dr. Mengele Pfizer, champion of Nazi medical experimentation ethics.

And don’t boo-hoo: you started the ad hominem.


70 posted on 08/12/2021 2:58:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Pretty good analogy. And it took place in 2 years rather than 2 decades.


71 posted on 08/12/2021 2:59:43 PM PDT by Kevmo ( 600 political prisoners in Washington, DC. You cannot comply your way out of tyranny.)
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To: DoodleDawg

You’ll be fired, I never said you would not.

But it will be massive ammunition for future class-action lawsuits.

If you submit to the jab, or quietly quit your job without complaint, you will get nothing, not now and not in the future.


72 posted on 08/12/2021 3:00:02 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Flick Lives

Yes to all at 56. They are very worried. They should be.


73 posted on 08/12/2021 3:01:09 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Pajamajan

Amen to 58.


74 posted on 08/12/2021 3:01:44 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: CodeToad

Exactly.


75 posted on 08/12/2021 3:02:04 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: browniexyz

The 1942 Nazi medical experimenters never thought they’d be held to account either.

But they were.


76 posted on 08/12/2021 3:02:56 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
But it will be massive ammunition for future class-action lawsuits.

Good luck with those.

77 posted on 08/12/2021 3:04:47 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Kevmo; CodeToad

Imagine thousands of jabbed mothers giving birth to Thalidomide babies, or similar.

We literally have NO idea what will happen in 1 or 5 years.

We are in uncharted waters, jabbing millions with an experimental synthetic gene-modifying mRNA spike protein falsely relabeled as a “vaccine.”

The rage against big pharma and all the bribed bureaucrats will be INCALUCULABLE.

Nuremberg level. And 2021 promises of immunity will mean NOTHING when the witnesses are on the stand.

Ask the hanged Nazis.


78 posted on 08/12/2021 3:08:10 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: DoodleDawg

Ask the hanged Nuremberg Nazis. They thought they had immunity too.


79 posted on 08/12/2021 3:08:47 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Sequoyah101

>>>If FDA rubber stamp approves any of these vaccines every “legal” and ethical argument including Nuremberg and Hippocratic Oath are not worth much more than the paper they are written on.<<<

The Nazi medical experimenters thought they had immunity, too. 1. “Just following orders” 2. No laws in total war.

They were hanged. Just saying.

It all depends on the as-yet unknown long-term side effects of coercing millions of people into taking an experimental synthetic mRNA jab.

If it’s on the level of Thalidomide, many CEOs will be hanged.

Do I know it will be on the Thalidomide level? NO. Do the Pfizer and Moderna executives know? NO THEY DO NOT.

They are willing to gamble that risk to millions of people tomorrow, for billions in profits to themselves today.

No Year 2020 (bribed, bought) promises of immunity will hold up to the images below in the minds of millions, if there are terrible unknown side effects.

The CEOs were willing to gamble. The downside risk is hanging. Ask the Nazis how that went.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=thalidomide+babies&t=chromentp&atb=v134-1&iax=images&ia=images


80 posted on 08/12/2021 3:15:32 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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