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Additional thoughts on vaccine mandates

Posted on 08/05/2021 8:33:39 PM PDT by dkGba

(I’ve never posted anything before- if I am doing this all wrong please private email me and explain) On 8/3 at 9:49pm I posted a reply on TexasGurl24’s post about “FDA Aims for Full Approval of Pfizer Covid19 vaccination by Labor Day” expressing my frustration that soon we will have no right to work unless vaccinated, concerns about vaccine safety and efficacy and once approved we lose most, if not all, ability to defend against an employer mandate. Now I get private businesses/employers right to conduct business way they want- you don’t have to work there, etc (unless said employer or business is being asked to bake a cake for a situation they disagree with on moral religious grounds 😉). But if both public AND private businesses can mandate what I must do to my body, then essentially if I disagree with, or are afraid of, or think vaccine is harmful or want to‘wait and see’,there is no right to work in the country because no employer left, unless have own business and the left is quickly making that impossible as well. Myself and a family member who are older but nowhere near SS retirement age yet, are currently at risk of losing our retirement and employment unless we comply with employer mandate to get a Covid vaccine. I despaired in post of how bleak and hopeless future is particularly for our age. (Anyway etc etc, see the post). SOoooo I’ve been thinking: I wonder if there is any way to create a CRIMINAL offense ? The value of the retirement we will lose is significant and the entire mandate I consider coercion and a threat-and if you can’t grope me at work why is ok to assault me with a needle? I don’t know- I just wonder how to find an attorney who is interested in defending against the mandates to determine if a criminal offense is possible- it’s definitely a threat (job loss and to my physical and mental health) and seems like coercion if money involved (loss of retirement) ?? It might just keep options open long enough to buy us all some time if this was a reasonable logical legal ball to get rolling??? Any thoughts??


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1 posted on 08/05/2021 8:33:39 PM PDT by dkGba
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2 posted on 08/05/2021 8:38:27 PM PDT by Manic_Episode ( “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.”)
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This is absolute insanity. We were seemingly free and clear of forever-covid just a few weeks ago. Now, freedom is in literal collapse. I am sorry for you. Many of us may be in the same boat in the near future, having to make unimaginable decisions. Hopefully some here have good advice for you.


3 posted on 08/05/2021 8:38:51 PM PDT by ilgipper (The mob only destroys. Never creates. )
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To: dkGba

Paragraphs are your friend

and ours. :-)


4 posted on 08/05/2021 8:39:58 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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Do what you want to do and let the chips fall where they may.


5 posted on 08/05/2021 8:43:52 PM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: dkGba
if I am doing this all wrong please private email me and explain

Not my style. I go for public humiliation. Now that we have that out of the way, Paragraphs. Indentions of sentences. Something to break it up into readable material.
As far as loss of employment and benefits, that is a serious issue. I'd talk to an attorney about liability of the employer forcing you into a medical risk. call around and find one favorable to your cause.
Good luck.

6 posted on 08/05/2021 8:43:59 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I thought I was being praised when the judge said my warrants were outstanding. But no.)
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To: dkGba

This is the answer:

https://leg.mt.gov/bills/2021/billpdf/HB0702.pdf

Only Montana has gone this far though.


7 posted on 08/05/2021 8:45:41 PM PDT by TexasGurl24
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To: dkGba
Here is your proof of vaccination (some assembly required):


8 posted on 08/05/2021 8:48:08 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: dkGba
A pandemic that has devastated small businesses yet the ultra-rich grow richer and the largest firms record astronomical profits.

"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." Benito Mussolini.

9 posted on 08/05/2021 8:48:54 PM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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I am retired (and so grateful for that) but I have been in situations where it seemed like the walls were closing in on me....

This may sound totally crazy, but this can be the best time of your life.

It will force you to think very carefully about what is really important to you and consider options you may never have considered before....

Think about what you are really good at—better than the vast majority of other people.

Can you make a business of that? Only you know the answer to that question.

Now is also a great time to reconnect with old friends or relatives who may have small businesses that could use your talents.

Spend quiet time relaxing and letting your mind work its magic. Get lots of sleep. I always got my most creative ideas when I was sleeping—I would wake up and take notes before I forgot them.

Polish your resume while smiling and pretending everything is fine at work—don’t burn any bridges.

Never let them know what you are really thinking.


10 posted on 08/05/2021 8:50:56 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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Check out the info at this link....

https://t.me/CandlesInTheNight/16077


11 posted on 08/05/2021 8:51:31 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
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FIRST if the employer is going to demand a vaccine for this THEN you can demand to know who has aids, STD’s, Herpes, Colds, Flu ect. ANYTHING contagious and DEMAND they also be vaccinated for all of these ailments!! A gentleman did just that an attorney drew up the papers to be presented to his employer and it worked!!!


12 posted on 08/05/2021 8:51:58 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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Also, there is this. (In Minecraft of course).

https://patriots.win/p/12i3zI97o4/covid-19-vaccine-card-pdf/


13 posted on 08/05/2021 8:52:36 PM PDT by TexasGurl24
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😊


14 posted on 08/05/2021 8:55:09 PM PDT by dkGba (God Bless America dkGba)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

No such thing happened. That was a 4chan meme with a really bad understanding of current law.


15 posted on 08/05/2021 8:55:32 PM PDT by TexasGurl24
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To: dkGba

not just coercion

conspiracy

threats

bribery

violation of conscience

duress


16 posted on 08/05/2021 8:58:42 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Do you know where you saw that so I can find out more about that strategy? Thanks


17 posted on 08/05/2021 8:58:50 PM PDT by dkGba (God Bless America dkGba)
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Mandating that people get injected with the poisons labeled COVID vaccines is murder.


18 posted on 08/05/2021 9:00:02 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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I find it curious that we went through a year of covid without hearing a word about variants, which all viruses generate, until shortly after the vaccines were introduced; vaccines which caused states to relax restrictions and begin a return to normalcy.

While I'm not a believer in great conspiracies, neither am I a believer in great coincidences ...

19 posted on 08/05/2021 9:02:34 PM PDT by glennaro (Dennis Prager: "Until it's safe" means "Never")
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To: Jane Long

That’s some great information, I’ll definitely go through it. Unfortunately once vaccine is approved and not under EUA a lot of defense seems lost


20 posted on 08/05/2021 9:03:24 PM PDT by dkGba (God Bless America dkGba)
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