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Data suggests Russia's COVID-19 death toll is far higher than reported
ABC News ^ | 30 Jul 2021 | Patrick Reevell

Posted on 08/04/2021 2:41:50 AM PDT by blueplum

ST. PETERSBURG, Russia -- At the start of June, St. Petersburg’s local administration stopped publishing information about how many COVID-19 patients had been hospitalized in the Russian city....

Throughout the pandemic, Russian authorities have been accused of massaging statistics to hide the real scale of the country’s COVID-19 impact. The Kremlin has repeatedly suggested that although it has been difficult, Russia has fared better than most other countries, even as it has neglected to impose tough lockdown measures....

But publicly available mortality statistics, as well as other data, show an ever growing, yawning gap between Russia’s official COVID-19 figures and what are likely the far larger real numbers. The data suggest the true death toll may already be over a half-million...

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: coviddeaths; foreignrelations; russia; sputnikv
their national statistics service numbers are being used to estimate 'excess deaths' and putting Russia in the 500-700K deaths range
1 posted on 08/04/2021 2:41:50 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum

So ... I guess that justifies a total lockdown over here ... because ... science.


2 posted on 08/04/2021 2:46:43 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We have two Democrat parties. 50% of the US population has no political representation.)
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To: blueplum

Just saw where Mattel is making vaccine barbie dolls. I hope they at least do the same with their Ken dolls.


3 posted on 08/04/2021 2:47:21 AM PDT by RummyChick (To President Trump: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3923111/posts)
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To: blueplum

So is China’s and every other dictatorship worse than reported.


4 posted on 08/04/2021 2:48:33 AM PDT by Jonty30 (My superpower is setting people up for failure, without meaning to. )
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To: blueplum

my guess is many millions died in China, but they will never own up to that.


5 posted on 08/04/2021 2:56:55 AM PDT by qwerty1234
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To: RummyChick

I liked the idea since it was modeled after the UK vaccine developer. Barbie can drive a pink cadillac but she can also succeed in advanced sciences.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/barbie-debuts-doll-in-likeness-of-british-covid-19-vaccine-developer/ar-AAMULcV?ocid=uxbndlbing


6 posted on 08/04/2021 3:03:08 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: blueplum

DATA suggests ABC News lies more then conservatives have been reporting. <-—There fixed it, or at least this is what I suspect.


7 posted on 08/04/2021 3:13:14 AM PDT by ReformedBeckite (1 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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the article isn’t about ABC news, it’s about numbers released by Russia’s Rosstat


8 posted on 08/04/2021 3:18:05 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: blueplum

Maybe Russia does not inflate their “COVID-related” deaths to the degree they do here in the Untied States.

If only the deaths attributed to actual effects of COVID-19 Wuhan virus are reported as such, then even our death toll would be much lower. But the co-morbidities are pretty much to blame for the vast majority of deaths, which may or may not be accelerated by or correlated to the presence of the coronavirus particles upon testing, which up to now, has not been particularly reliable.


9 posted on 08/04/2021 3:30:09 AM PDT by alloysteel ( Poor people give rich people all their money anyway. Just as they have always done.)
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Supposedly the USA has around 600,000 Covid deaths...

Because everything is political and the media among many others hated Trump, I believe the number of Covid deaths in the USA is highly inflated....

There is a difference between dying with Covid versus dying from Covid...

My guess is probably 25-40% of Covid deaths in the USA are bogus, even if the person tested positive for Covid the person died from a gun shot, car wreck, cancer, heart attack, etc....perhaps the number is much higher....

We know that certain Covid tests are bogus inflating the number of infections...

This is happening all around the world, in Russia the media wants to stay on the good side of Putin so they under report Covid deaths, in the USA the media hated Trump so they way over inflate Covid deaths...


10 posted on 08/04/2021 3:50:10 AM PDT by srmanuel (`)
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To: blueplum

Well, ours is much lower than reported.


11 posted on 08/04/2021 4:09:48 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: blueplum

Probably much higher.


12 posted on 08/04/2021 4:11:56 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: blueplum

Communists lie?

Who’da thunk it...


13 posted on 08/04/2021 4:15:45 AM PDT by moovova (Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
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Communists Democrats lie?

Who’da thunk it...

14 posted on 08/04/2021 4:18:11 AM PDT by moovova (Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
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To: blueplum

Potemkin knew how to handle Russians.


15 posted on 08/04/2021 4:18:46 AM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: srmanuel

They can try to lay 250K at Trumps feet for taking 9 months to birth a vaccine, 2 months for sourcing PPE and meds and test kits under War Powers when the CDC couldn’t manage to send the right kits or reagents or even results, and for starting 80-odd drug trials before the Princess cruise lot even touched down on US soil. But it won’t fly. The deliberate sabatogue and disasterous rollout in spite of everything being done and in place is in the lap of the Dems. Biden’s crew even wanted to argue over which syringe to use as a delay tactic, when they’d already been purchased and sent out -with no ultimate loss of ‘doses’ after all.

‘excess deaths’ is probably the best gauge. Russia is already 4th in the world anyway. If they ended up number one it isn’t much of a stretch. (although I think India is probably the real number one). America, Canada and the UK are probably closest to honest because they’re the countries hardest to censor with the nosiest reporters ;).

While ‘of covid’ and ‘with covid’ might have been a distractive topic when attempting to downplay elder deaths, it won’t be much of a factor in deaths in younger age groups - it’s all ‘of covid’.


16 posted on 08/04/2021 4:24:53 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: RummyChick

It was just a matter of time before they got around to anatomically correct, “Let’s play doctor” dolls for kids....


17 posted on 08/04/2021 4:44:42 AM PDT by trebb (Fight like your life and future depends on it - because they do.)
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To: blueplum
Data suggests . . .

An astute consumer of mainstream media should always be on the lookout for what I call "weasel words".

The word "suggests" is one such word. There are many you should be on the lookout for: may, possible, perhaps, could, and dozens of others.
18 posted on 08/04/2021 5:15:40 AM PDT by systemjim (Lifetime Lover of Music)
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To: blueplum

Propaganda designed to make the inadequate British feel better about their own death rate.


19 posted on 08/04/2021 6:04:36 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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