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LAB-WE CAN ONLY TEST FOR COVID NOT FOR VARIANTS-HOW DO THEY KNOW THERE IS A DELTA VARIANT "SURGE"?
TimTruth.com ^ | July 31, 2021 | Jim Crenshaw

Posted on 08/01/2021 8:48:21 AM PDT by norsky

How can you have a "Delta Variant Surge" if you cannot test for the "Delta" variant???? More lies and fakery to scare the masses. So now they will be shoving a booster shot at people for a variant they can't test for??? If you cannot test to see if someone has the so called fake "Delta" variant then how do you know to give them a booster for it??? IT IS ALL BULLSHIT. Source: Tim Truth 1 million or more dead. Their screams are being silenced by the media. It is murder. It is GENOCIDE:

LAB-WE CAN ONLY TEST FOR COVID NOT FOR VARIANTS-HOW DO THEY KNOW THERE IS A DELTA VARIANT "SURGE"?

Short video with audio of Tim calling labs etc about lab tests for Delta varian, none found, surprise surprise.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: covid; deltavariant
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To: norsky

It’s a good question...that someone decides what the answer is to fit the desired narrative without doing any research.

Narrative over facts.


21 posted on 08/01/2021 9:12:58 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Brian Griffin
There are extraordinary labs that can test for variants.

Name one.

22 posted on 08/01/2021 9:15:34 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: norsky

For your reading pleasure:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.12.21251658v1.full.pdf

This article appears to have come out at the beginning of this year. It doesn’t seem to talk about Delta specifically, but does discuss the business of variants generally. The researchers distinguish variants by the nucleic acid sequences in their genomes.

Notably,

“A subset of such mutations enable escape from neutralizing antibodies or are thought to enhance transmission through mechanisms such as increased affinity for the cell entry receptor, ACE2.”

I imagine that at the time they considered “neutralizing antibodies” to be a consequence of the natural immune response to the virus. But the vaccines induce the production of “neutralizing antibodies” as well, directly or indirectly. Given that Delta seems to doing a decent job of dodging vaccine-induced immunity, it seems plausible that the selection pressure favoring Delta came from the vaccines themselves. They selectively kill off Alpha, making the surviving Delta dominate.


23 posted on 08/01/2021 9:17:23 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

No, not all of them. They take samples of the positive samples. Statistics and all that.


24 posted on 08/01/2021 9:19:58 AM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: IndispensableDestiny
NO, they did NOT!

The CDC admits they have NO TEST for ANY Covid Variant!!!

Grow up and quit pushing the sheep narrative!

25 posted on 08/01/2021 9:21:35 AM PDT by G Larry (Force the Universities to use their TAX FREE ENDOWMENTS to pay off Student loan debt!!!)
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To: IndispensableDestiny

I’m betting the whole Delta panic is just a reason for lockdowns and forced vaccinating.

They used a test that couldn’t distinguish between covid and flu for more than a year.
They set the testing cycle of the tests high enough to create false positives according to the inventor of the test.
They stopped the high cycle testing once Biden was in.
They stopped reporting on Vaxxed people.

Now it is the latest fear porn.

They haven’t released any data I’ve seen as to how many “gene-sequenced” Delta tests have been done.

They simply make it up to coerce people.


26 posted on 08/01/2021 9:23:15 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (“Fraud vitiates everything.” )
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To: IndispensableDestiny

How it is done isn’t the question, but rather when is it being done. I work in two hospitals, in the Emergency Department, and we routinely test all patients suspected of Covid of course, along with anyone being admitted or transferred. Once the lab has finished the test they destroy the swabs, as they do with most biological material. So in these two cases, how would anyone know what variant produced a positive? It’s a topic of frequent discussion in the health community where I live, and nobody knows of any genetic testing being done here.


27 posted on 08/01/2021 9:24:49 AM PDT by cbvanb
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To: C210N

Tests exist:

“Thermo Fisher’s New Rapid Genotyping Solution
Dr. Gandhi then described how Thermo Fisher’s new TaqMan SARS-CoV-2 Mutation Panel* offers a broadly deployable solution for rapid detection of known variants. ‘We certainly have a lot of different tools in our toolbox,’ said Dr. Gandhi. While next-generation sequencing (NGS) and Sanger sequencing are also available for variant surveillance, the mutation panel offers a quick option to look for specific mutations and variants of concern. “We have about 22 verified assays already and we are constantly building on this menu,” said Dr. Gandhi. He continued, ‘this uses the same real-time PCR instrument that is used for TaqPath assays and you can run one or a few hundred samples, depending on the type of format or the setup that you have.’”

https://www.thermofisher.com/blog/ask-a-scientist/rapid-genotyping-a-new-tool-for-early-identification-of-sars-cov-2-variants/


28 posted on 08/01/2021 9:25:51 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: ConservativeMind
The CDC is sampling using an internal test. There are no external tests available, yet.

Our results are accurate because we said so.

You can trust us.

Sure.......

30 posted on 08/01/2021 9:29:40 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
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To: Brian Griffin

Imagine, imagine.

Hypotheticals are not the real world.

You really need to come up with something of more substance than your fabricated imaginary scenarios.


31 posted on 08/01/2021 9:31:37 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
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To: norsky; null and void; aragorn; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; bitt; Black Agnes; blueyon; ...
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LAB-WE CAN ONLY TEST FOR COVID NOT FOR VARIANTS-HOW DO THEY KNOW THERE IS A DELTA VARIANT "SURGE"?

Thanks, norsky.

32 posted on 08/01/2021 9:31:39 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: norsky; null and void; aragorn; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; bitt; Black Agnes; blueyon; ...
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LAB-WE CAN ONLY TEST FOR COVID NOT FOR VARIANTS-HOW DO THEY KNOW THERE IS A DELTA VARIANT "SURGE"?

Thanks, norsky.

33 posted on 08/01/2021 9:31:39 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: norsky
Like this.

"Genomic sequencing of specimens from 133 patients identified the B.1.617.2 (Delta) variant of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, in 119 (89%) and the Delta AY.3 sublineage in one (1%)."

You were all over the thread that is lifted from, repeating yourself, and didn't raise objection there lol....

34 posted on 08/01/2021 9:34:04 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (All of you have one of the following in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

We’ve been lied to throughout this whole debacle and now suddenly we’re supposed to believe that they are not, out of the blue, for no reason but their benevolent concern for out welfare and greater good, telling us the truth????????

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.


35 posted on 08/01/2021 9:34:45 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
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To: IndispensableDestiny
They genetically sequence positive samples from the labs. Now go away.

So why wasn't this done for flu vs. covid?

ML/NJ

36 posted on 08/01/2021 9:35:16 AM PDT by ml/nj (DITCH MITCH !! and found)
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To: norsky
Answer: They can't test for the Delta variant or any other variant. It's all propaganda. The SARS-CoV2 virus has NEVER been isolated and is not available for controlled lab sequencing or experimentation. Labs are given a printed or digital PDF version of the virus. Not kidding.

The PCR test is wildly inaccurate and can return positive results for people with all sorts of viruses, the seasonal flu or even the common cold.

Don't listen to the recent crop of statist jackasses who show up on FR trying to convince people that FedGov scum like Fauci are telling the truth and we shouldn't ask questions.

37 posted on 08/01/2021 9:41:13 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (The Media is the Virus.)
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To: norsky

Are you doubting what was tell you? Off to the re-education camps with you!


38 posted on 08/01/2021 9:41:53 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; norsky
Well, just as an example, the thread from Friday "CDC: 74% who got Covid-19 and most who were hospitalized in recent analysis had been fully vaccinated", a thread that both you and Norsky happily participated in without objection to the Delta variant testing -- pretty much the crux of that article -- had either of you actually read the source material, you would have found this info in the footnotes:

39 posted on 08/01/2021 9:47:14 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (All of you have one of the following in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson)
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To: rightwingcrazy

“Given that Delta seems to doing a decent job of dodging vaccine-induced immunity, it seems plausible that the selection pressure favoring Delta came from the vaccines themselves. They selectively kill off Alpha, making the surviving Delta dominate.”

My belief is that your take is correct.

Notice that the virus is able to create a successful strain (there have been more failures) in less time than our frantic and panic-driven government can “Warp Speed” any remedy. This does not bode well for this tactic of engagement.

Note also that survival for the virus in a population of the “vaccinated” will be driven most strongly by that vaccination. The virus will not be limited by its effect on the unvaccinated if there is enough of a “vaccinated” population to survive. It can freely mutate to the lethality (for the unvaccinated) of the original SARS-COV as long as vaccination allows it to.

Does this explain the actions of those who have just seized control of this country using this?


40 posted on 08/01/2021 9:47:38 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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