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How does the PCR test distinguish between Covid-19 and the Delta variant?

Posted on 07/29/2021 7:29:44 AM PDT by Scooter100

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To: SaxxonWoods

They are using the chart method of science. You make a chart that shows precise results and people seeing the chart assume there must be precise science behind it...really I have no idea, but am dubious about how they can know as well.


21 posted on 07/29/2021 7:59:21 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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The PCR RT test does not identify which variant of Covid is present in a sample. The PCR RT test is being replaced on Dec 31, 2021 by any of a handful of other FDA approved tests. PCR is not a total failure, but it is inferior to most of the molecular assay tests on the FDA approved list. Note PCR RT is the norm now because it is inexpensive and all it has is Emergency Use authorization. That authorization is being pulled Dec 31.

Identifying variants is a separate procedure called genomic sequencing. This is done in a separate lab. It has no connection with the PCR RT test.


22 posted on 07/29/2021 8:00:02 AM PDT by Owen
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To: babble-on

Well... We’re waiting! Tell us what you know oh fount of epidemiology.


23 posted on 07/29/2021 8:03:25 AM PDT by Mathews (It's all gravy, baby!)
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To: Scooter100

How does the PCR test distinguish between Covid-19 and the Delta variant?

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A better question is How does the PCR test distinguish between Covid-19 and the REGULAR FLU?

And the answer is - It doesn’t.


24 posted on 07/29/2021 8:06:18 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It's my government that I hate.)
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To: Scooter100

A whole barn-load of people at the CDC stats office need to be horse-whipped.

You’re much too kind.

I’m thinking Alcatraz be reopened for its intended purposes. All pertinent parties, Fauci and Birx included, be brought into a big room where their told they will be interviewed as to what their roles are/were, who gave them the marching orders and will be given one chance to “get on the bus” as the FBI tells folks right before the interviews start. Each, then marched to their individual cells, and one by one brought into an interview room with some legit investigators. If the interviews don’t go well, they turn into interrogations and the methods are “enhanced”. Board, water, towel, some straps...sleep deprivation...noise and lights..who knows. Whatever works, as far as I’m concerned.

They all stay there, in solitary just like the folks the FBI arrested for being at the Capitol on January 6th. And don’t leave until they talk and the interviewers are satisfied with what they say.

Do you think I’ve thought about this much? Nor do I think it’ll take very long to get to the bottom of this if people actually cared.

One of the biggest problems with this, just like the Mueller crap, no one is ever held accountable. Most of the time they barely even get asked any questions. The FBI lawyer, Clinesmith, committed Perjury. Got less than a slap on the wrist and will be able to get his law license back to continue to practice. He’s a hero.

Do you think any of the folks at the CDC, WHO, or where Fauci works are afraid that they might be held accountable for what they’ve done and continue to do?


25 posted on 07/29/2021 8:08:02 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Scooter100

Apparently it’s by symptoms. And, just for the record, symptom means (Merriam Webster):

Definition of symptom

1a : subjective evidence of disease or physical disturbance broadly : something that indicates the presence of bodily disorder
b : an evident reaction by a plant to a pathogen
2a : something that indicates the existence of something else symptoms of an inner turmoil
b : a slight indication : trace


26 posted on 07/29/2021 8:09:05 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: babble-on

You heard wrong. Disregard the ignorant information someone gave you.

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The ignorant information someone gave?

Came straight from the CDC. You’ve seen the links. You’ve seen the sources.

That said - the CDC is FULL of ignorant information. So yeah. While it’s safe to ignore what they tell you do, it’s OK to listen when they admit how wrong they are.


27 posted on 07/29/2021 8:10:05 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It's my government that I hate.)
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To: Scooter100

I’m not a doctor and don’t play one on TV. I might play doctor and nurse at home, though.

I have questioned the same thing; how can they tell the variant differences.

Yesterday I listened to Dr. Andrew Kaufman on Infowars. 48 careful minutes of defn of virus, testing procedures, etc., and the most in-depth answer to this question, and more.

https://banned.video/watch?id=6101d9376ffa43194aad80cb

He must be over the target, as DuckDuck of him, portrays him as unqualified and otherwise goofy.

I will watch him again. I believe that he presents real science, and would help a person make an informed VAX decision.


28 posted on 07/29/2021 8:18:09 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: PIF

I (unvaccinated) just tested positive for Covid19. Tested at Baylor, Scott and White.

Per the nurse and doctor, the rapid test just signals Yes/No and can be subject to false positives.

The 24 test also came back positive so I have one of the CoViDs.

No way to determine further without a different test set that they did not order.

Oh, my probable vector?

My wife, after she got her J&J vaccine a month ago. Was really sick for a few weeks afterwards. Was probably shedding virus loads all over and I snagged a few.

They didn’t even want to argue down that path.


29 posted on 07/29/2021 8:21:18 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: PIF

False.

The RT-PCR test triggers off specific genetic sequences only found in SARS-CoV-2.

And SARS-CoV-2 is as similar to Influenza virus as humans are to snails. In other words, other than both being viruses, they’re as different as they can possibly be. Not even the same phylum.


30 posted on 07/29/2021 9:00:02 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: Scooter100
I doesn't. You have to genetically sequence the sample to determine the variant.

And for all those others that have posted, the FDA is not pulling approval to use RT PCR. They are ending the EUA for the CDC developed panel. Testers will use one of many other PCR panels, including those with multiple targets. Multiple targets means a single test run can also look for the flu, among other things.

31 posted on 07/29/2021 9:00:15 AM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: texas booster
"No way to determine further without a different test set that they did not order."

The only way to determine the variant is to genetically sequence your sample. That sequencing is done randomly on positive specimens at various points around the country to determine when new variants are active and which variants are most commonly present.

"My wife, after she got her J&J vaccine a month ago. Was really sick for a few weeks afterwards. Was probably shedding virus loads all over and I snagged a few."

Literally impossible unless she got infected with COVID-19 separately. The vaccines do NOT contain the virus. There is no virus to shed. There is no way to "infect" anyone else from the vaccines. It's certainly possible your wife was already infected when she got vaccinated. Unfortunately, that typically isn't checked ahead of time.

32 posted on 07/29/2021 9:03:04 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: IndispensableDestiny

THANK YOU for providing factual information!

It seems ridiculous to have to do that, but with all the misinformation being spread, it’s a breath of fresh air to see someone giving accurate info.


33 posted on 07/29/2021 9:04:20 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: babble-on

You didn’t just drink the Kool-aide, you have opened up a stand and you’re trying to sell it to everyone else. The CDC website states exactly this, the PCR does not distinguish between any of the Covid variants. Go away, troll.


34 posted on 07/29/2021 9:10:09 AM PDT by cbvanb
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

That being true how come the inventor of the RT-PCR test said it cannot distinguish? Was he lying? Why would he do that, if it worked?

How come only 700 people died of Influenza last year when the normal number is something like 20,000?


35 posted on 07/29/2021 9:34:49 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Scooter100

I asked that question yesterday and was told the TMA test I was given can’t differentiate between variants.


36 posted on 07/29/2021 9:35:25 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Grampa Dave

All this plandemic, they knew this both improper use of the PCR and the well known high percentage of FALSE positive results from the PCR indicating infection by COVID. 90-98% false positive.

They used these huge false positive numbers to ramp up the “cases confirmed” numbers and justify all of the rest of the actions, lockdowns, masks, travel restriction, closing of businesses for ‘safety’. All a LIE and they knew it then and they are showing they knew it and know it... now.


37 posted on 07/29/2021 9:56:50 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Robert DeLong
Since they have never isolated the novel coronavirus, they don’t even know about that, let alone identifying variants.

How many times do you need to be shown that this isn't true before you stop peddling this BS to your fellow FReepers?

38 posted on 07/29/2021 10:01:56 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: SaxxonWoods

The Alpha, Beta & Gamma were identified from Dec. 2020 through Feb and March 2021-— Delta came along and Id’d in INDIA in April 2021.

The variant is a variation of the S-proteins (the spikes on the outside of the virion of the virus (the ball), the spike proteins have genetic coding for them to be made, and this DNA has mutated now 4 times ending so far with Delta.

The infection mechanism has not changed, only the S-protein formed (its physical shape in 3D has changed-— nothing about the S-Protein which would change its seeking out the Receptor on Lung lining cells....The ACE2 (Angiotensin Converting Enzyme 2— also a protein itself).

The mechanism of infection has not changed. Only the S protein shape/genetic makeup which they say is somehow more transmissible—— maybe the protein is shaped for a better receptor fit.

Does not change what is the nature of the Covid genetics.


39 posted on 07/29/2021 10:05:09 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Scooter100

So there isn’t two tests? WTF guys....we’re being hood winked.


40 posted on 07/29/2021 10:07:05 AM PDT by wardamneagle (c)
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