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Gas Engines, and the People Behind Them, Are Cast Aside for Electric Vehicles
WSJ ^ | 23 July 2021 | Mike Colias

Posted on 07/24/2021 9:01:09 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

He developed gasoline engines for family sedans as well as thunderous Nascar racing machines.

By last year, though, the excitement was gone. His projects were no longer about advancing the engine, just nursing along existing technology. All the buzz had shifted to electric vehicles. In December, Mr. Penkevich took early retirement at age 59.

“It’s been a fun ride,” said engineer Dave Lancaster, who spent 40 years working in engine development at General Motors Co. “But I think we’re coming into the homestretch for the conventional engine.”

Over the past several decades, auto makers in most years rolled out between 20 and 70 new engines globally, according to research firm IHS Markit. That number will fall below 10 this year, and then essentially go to zero, the research firm said.

“We don’t want to be left making the best buggy whips,”

For the UAW to prevail, workers would have to vote yes, and wages likely would be far lower than at a car factory. Other battery plants typically pay $15 to $18 an hour, compared with a top hourly wage of around $30 for a UAW-represented worker at an assembly plant.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: automotive; toast; uaw; unions
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To: Mariner

—”They are urban vehicles only and they will blow up the power grid”

That is an unsupported supposition.

The capacity will
be there for many years, I have posted a usage graph link.

The larger problem is how to charge the many ungaraged vehicles?
Yes, power is available at most lampposts but the costs of political/union workers to provide a metered receptacle?

Most of the copper charging cables will be gone before morning. Using an ax and wooden chopping block...


81 posted on 07/24/2021 11:21:41 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: PUGACHEV
You're looking at this from the standpoint of a motorist who is practical and prudent, and has confidence in the vehicle.

I'm looking at this from the standpoint of someone who is likely to view vehicle charging as something more similar to charging a mobile phone than to refueling a vehicle with gasoline. In a culture dominated by electronic devices there is likely to be a natural tendency for people to take advantage of opportunities to charge a device while it is stationary -- to ensure that it has as much power as possible available when there is a need to disconnect it. I believe most drivers would look to take advantage of ANY "down" time for the vehicle and charge it just so they are confident it has a full charge when they start it up again.

82 posted on 07/24/2021 11:23:16 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: right way right

—”The government needs to stay the hell out and let the market handle it.”

Totally agree with one minor change.

The charging plugs need to be standardized with the charging commutations between the vehicle and charger.


83 posted on 07/24/2021 11:25:37 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: Renfrew

As the power grid demands more current to charge the millions and millions of vehicle batteries, the law of supply and demand will kick in and electricity prices will soar beyond current comprehension.

Assuming that all fossil fuel and nuclear power plants are shut, can wind and solar supply the tera-wattage required, or will electricity be a perk available only to the well to do?


84 posted on 07/24/2021 11:25:46 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The new Jaguars have a switch on the dash that you can flip which, I think, changes the airflow of the exhaust to make it louder if you like.


85 posted on 07/24/2021 11:26:15 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem by far is that most of the news media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

For sure.
It’s in the interest of the manufacturers too I would think.


86 posted on 07/24/2021 11:28:56 AM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope. )
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To: Alberta's Child

the vehicle a lot less attractive to you as a motorist.


That’s the idea - force people into mass transit, rail, trolley, bus, etc. Long held liberal dream. Is perhaps why the “infrastructure” bill includes billions for mass transit?


87 posted on 07/24/2021 11:30:23 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Alberta's Child

Don’t forget time-to-refuel. I can fill my tank in 10 minutes. For the car I drive that’s 360 combined miles. Try that with an electric vehicle, especially in a northern winter.


88 posted on 07/24/2021 11:33:58 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Tolk2112

i’ve worked on both throughout the years...

the later models are still pushrod design but running two cams (one for each cylinder) instead of a single cam running both cylinders and are more reliable and don’t leak oil like the earlier models...

my father currently has two later model harleys... when you hit the starter button they fire right up every time...


89 posted on 07/24/2021 11:34:11 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: Tolk2112

—”Harley Davidson switched to electronic ignition the engine lost the skip “

Can you link to anyone who returned to the old wasted spark system?

I’ve been on my airhead BMW for years and not HD for years, but this makes no sense???


90 posted on 07/24/2021 11:42:48 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: PIF

I think COVID-19 has done more damage to the appeal of mass transit than anyone realizes.


91 posted on 07/24/2021 11:43:35 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: crz

Charging capability & adequate power production should have been considered before they ever started promoting electric vehicles. A lot of folks have no interest in an electric vehicle for several good reasons. If they are so dead-set on electric vehicles, then we should have started well before now with building new power plants....and certainly NOT depending on so-called “renewable” power sources.


92 posted on 07/24/2021 11:49:54 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: crz

Charging capability & adequate power production should have been considered before they ever started promoting electric vehicles. A lot of folks have no interest in an electric vehicle for several good reasons. If they are so dead-set on electric vehicles, then we should have started well before now with building new power plants....and certainly NOT depending on so-called “renewable” power sources.


93 posted on 07/24/2021 11:50:04 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: heavy metal

They fire up every time but if some chip controlled part fails, you are sitting on the side of the road.
Points can be made to work regardless of their condition just keep a coil in your toolkit, carbs can be “rebuilt” on the side of the road.

To be honest the only Harley I’ve had was a 1948 flathead, It never left me stranded.
I’m a more of a British guy actually.
Can tune a British twin to kick over with your little toe, first time everytime.


94 posted on 07/24/2021 11:51:05 AM PDT by Tolk2112
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Well hell...back in the 50s as a ten year old lad I was experimenting with multiple baseball cards on front and rear forks of my bicycle...finally settled on an 8 card arrangement with some double card units....sweet!

...and they were renewable and free.


95 posted on 07/24/2021 12:00:07 PM PDT by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and fools who can not govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Data Miner
the has to run those big blocks will be a luxury.

BMW has announced a 2 liter 4 cylinder that produces 400 HP, no need for big block engines anymore, but you could always add sound effects I guess.

96 posted on 07/24/2021 12:00:47 PM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
I just need to get a Hybrid Graphic to put on it.

Rush used to advertise those in one of his hoax adds.

97 posted on 07/24/2021 12:02:07 PM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: Tolk2112

he’s 83 years old and all about the convenience factor...

after my 26 years of operating automotive towing and recovery services and cleaning up numerous wrecks i refuse to ride a motorcycle on public roads...

i’m into building hotrods and show cars...


98 posted on 07/24/2021 12:05:11 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: shanover
Pure insanity.There is no grid strong enough for these fantasies.

So far no one has talked about the road tax that is inevitable, being added to the cost of a charge up. Diesel used be practically free now it cost more than standard gasoline, ever wonder why? Most don't.

99 posted on 07/24/2021 12:05:55 PM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: Alberta's Child

You are probably right, but that will not stop then from jamming mass transit down out collective throats. The more we are under the elite’s control the better they feel, the richer and more powerful they become.


100 posted on 07/24/2021 12:06:37 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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