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$20,000 trash cans? S.F. looks to roll out costly prototypes for pilot on street corners
SF Chronicle ^ | 7-23-21 | Mallory Moench

Posted on 07/24/2021 5:55:49 AM PDT by dynachrome

San Francisco elected officials struggling to deal with complaints about garbage piling up on the city’s sidewalks and streets have been waiting three years for a solution — only to get sticker shock when they heard the details this week.

Addressing the problem requires a good trash can, but on Wednesday, a committee of the Board of Supervisors wrestled with how to replace many substandard bins when it learned that a batch of new, custom-made design prototypes will cost $12,000 to $20,000 apiece.

When mass-produced, the cost per can will drop to an estimated $2,000 to $3,000. Still, supervisors balked at the price to get there.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfchronicle.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Humor; Society
KEYWORDS: sanfrancicko; sanfrancisco; trashcans
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To: Stravinsky

I think it was the refrigerator and commode
that drove the price up...


21 posted on 07/24/2021 6:39:52 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

What SF needs is a giant flush handle. But then the ocean would be more polluted.

Would a small nuke create a big enough hole to dump the garbage in? Curious minds want to know. Added feature would be radiation killing the germs.


22 posted on 07/24/2021 6:43:42 AM PDT by oldasrocks
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To: dynachrome

In large cities I think most of the issue has two parts, neither of which is due to the design of the trash receptacle.

The first is with too infrequent trash pickups at the sites of the public trash receptacles.

The second is with folks who take their daily trash from their residence and want to put it in the public trash receptacles on the street, instead of using whatever is established for trash pick up at their residence. I have seen that practice all over NYC.

Trash problems are usually with people, not the design of the receptacles.


23 posted on 07/24/2021 6:47:08 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: dynachrome

Studio apartments for our friends ??


24 posted on 07/24/2021 6:50:11 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tor)
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To: dynachrome

Thr important question is what their scrap metal value is.


25 posted on 07/24/2021 6:52:44 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: Flick Lives

When they have a fire set in them, can they support the combustion as well as a Dumpster?

Chances are, one of these marvel machines set ablaze would make a Dumpster fire look like a ladyfinger firecracker.


26 posted on 07/24/2021 6:53:07 AM PDT by alloysteel ( Cows don't give milk. You have to work for it.)
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To: nesnah

And liberals mock the Pentagon for it’s hammers....


27 posted on 07/24/2021 6:54:17 AM PDT by Kozak (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TV)
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To: Stravinsky

I take it these are not “cans” but rather “Bins” due to the prototyping cost. Three designs that require five prototypes each. I take it that they have researched the market and that there are no suitable bins manufactured anywhere in the U.S.
This is amazing. No COTS solution? Somebody’s pulling their pud. Find out who’s is pushing this, who’s involved and follow the money. This sounds like a conspiracy to defraud the city government. The DA or SA needs to look into this as well as a grand jury.


28 posted on 07/24/2021 6:59:42 AM PDT by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch)
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To: dynachrome
Yet San Francisco’s garbage wars are serious business.

Getting them from the Sopranos?

29 posted on 07/24/2021 7:06:17 AM PDT by FatherofFive (We support Trump. Not the GOP)
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To: dynachrome

It’s San Francisco. Do the new cans contribute to a welcoming environment for the homeless and new pre-documented migrants? Are they net zero carbon emissions based on complete lifecycle analysis? Do they incorporate solar capacity and connect to a smart grid? Does rainwater filtering through them meet modern water quality standards when it drips out onto the sidewalks, where it will eventually run into the Bay? Can they double efficiently as ballot drop boxes for elections? Can you securely lock a bicycle to them? Do they maximize the kickback potential for local democrat pols, or would a more expensive model increase the potential? Are they large enough and comfortable enough to provide sleeping quarters for unhoused street warriors whose lifestyle preferences do not include shelters? The questions are endless. This probably requires major grants for years of academic studies as well as years of field testing.


30 posted on 07/24/2021 7:12:45 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: dynachrome
They're looking to replace this;

With something like this;

Seems more about style than function

31 posted on 07/24/2021 7:16:03 AM PDT by Pollard
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To: dynachrome

The concrete tube with plastic or metal liner not good enough ,LOL


32 posted on 07/24/2021 7:17:56 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Stravinsky

The article shows pictures of trash cans barely larger than a regular kitchen trash can and they wonder why there is more trash piled around them than inside of them. Those little things would need to be emptied hourly. Set out much larger cans and empty them more often.


33 posted on 07/24/2021 7:24:54 AM PDT by bgill (Which came first, the vax or the virus?)
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To: dynachrome

They will be stolen and sold for scrap to buy drugs.


34 posted on 07/24/2021 7:38:56 AM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: dynachrome

Custom-made design prototypes will cost $12,000 to $20,000 apiece.

Someone’s relative just landed a epic contract.


35 posted on 07/24/2021 7:45:10 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: dynachrome

Does it collect human excrement too?

Asking for a friend.


36 posted on 07/24/2021 7:57:38 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: Enlightened1

Bingo. Studies have been done that conclusively show that ALL of the “homeless” programs in Frisco are little more than money funneling schemes for relatives/friends of Frisco politicos. It is a certainty that some politicos relative is in the supply chain on this and if Frisco goes ahead it will be a no-bid contract.


37 posted on 07/24/2021 7:59:32 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: Wuli
The second is with folks who take their daily trash from their residence and want to put it in the public trash receptacles on the street, instead of using whatever is established for trash pick up at their residence.

Why would they do that? I’ve never lived in a city

38 posted on 07/24/2021 8:06:37 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: dynachrome

There is not a trash can big enough... for the filth in SFO


39 posted on 07/24/2021 8:10:06 AM PDT by wzlboy
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To: gitmo

“Why would they do that? I’ve never lived in a city.”

Many excuses, some not legitimate at all, and some having to do with issues in the trash collection facilities where they live.

Many large apartment buildings have “trash disposal chutes”, with openings for using them on each floor. Sometime bad tenants get them stuffed (trying to put too much in the chute at once) and sometimes that can block the chute to all living above that point. Some smaller buildings have the usual type of trash cans shared by the tenants. If they are not monitored by whoever is to maintain them, and/or if some tenants don’t care about their fellow tenants, they can be stuffed full before the day they are to be put out for trash pickup.

But, sometimes, stupid people, going out for the day, will just take their kitchen trash with them on their way out, and put it in a public trash receptacle nearby.

I have even seen people here in NJ suburbs do that sort of thing. On their way into a local supermarket or convenience store they will carry a supermarket type of plastic bag, full, and place it in a garbage bin or can near where they park. I have seen people do this in our nearby park also. It is just laziness. They lazily avoid having to put the large trash can out for the regular garbage pick up at their house.


40 posted on 07/24/2021 8:21:45 AM PDT by Wuli
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