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Interesting candid window into Portlandia thinking
BikePortland ^ | 16 July 2021 | Steely Tom

Posted on 07/16/2021 12:35:24 PM PDT by Steely Tom

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To: pnut22

Maybe they ride side saddle.

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Damned hard to peddle that way. JMO.


21 posted on 07/16/2021 1:17:14 PM PDT by deport ( )
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To: deport

My dearest male freepers there are exercise skirts with stretchy little shorts underneath FYI.

Don’t know if these are they but I have one and it’s pretty great for hot days if don’t want to run around in little shorts but want the coolness of running around in little shorts.


22 posted on 07/16/2021 1:26:02 PM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen )
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To: marktwain
That is, of course, one of the leading defining characteristics of liberals. They can never be wrong, or even mistaken about anything. Ever.
23 posted on 07/16/2021 1:27:24 PM PDT by JennysCool ('It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.' - Mark Twain)
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To: marktwain

“Large numbers of people would rather die than change their worldview.”

Um, no. That is not quite correct. I wish it were.

“Large numbers of people would rather YOU die than change their worldview.” See the difference? They don’t give a crap about you or your posterity, or the children.

And this is the problem. “Your death, before their dishonor”, as it were.


24 posted on 07/16/2021 1:29:38 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Steely Tom

The “very complex problem” is that Portland folks are a little funny in the head.

Crazy people turn everything into an insane asylum.


25 posted on 07/16/2021 1:30:56 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: deport

I guess I should have put a J/K after the comment mostly because I was J/K.


26 posted on 07/16/2021 1:39:27 PM PDT by pnut22
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To: marktwain; Liz; Lazamataz; Red Badger; Kaslin

Their politics = Their ideology = Their Religion. Which has no place for Morality.


27 posted on 07/16/2021 1:48:45 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: Steely Tom
Here's some comments from one discussion (I-205 bikepath blockage):

I wouldn’t expect anything to change quickly.

There are camps all over town and when they get swept they just set up close by (sometimes literally within stone’s throw distance)

The comprehensive solution everyone wants isn’t going to happen in the foreseeable future. As a stopgap, just keeping the camps small and dispersed seems a practical start. That way the people in them and the people who live nearby get used to each other.

The city needs to be more assertive about keeping the paths clear with an understanding that the touch will be much lighter if an understood buffer is maintained.

This is a serious safety problem, a major disincentive for cycling, and a factor that significantly reduces support for separated infrastructure.

You can report at https://www.portlandoregon.gov/campsites and you can also look up reports at Campsite Reports | The City of Portland, Oregon.

They do respond based on reports, but don’t expect miracles. It’s a huge and complicated problem that’s not going away.

The website given in the above comment requires "registration" to a .gov site.

I finally just stopped riding that stretch. It’s a shame, but all those sketchy, crowded overpasses and the 205 traffic noise always kinda put a bad taste in my mouth, sometimes literally. So now I just cut out at maywood and go north on 99th. It avoids the prescott overpass, sandy/205 off ramp “canyon” and overpass, and one of the crossings at sandy & killingsworth. There’s a curb hop at the north end of 99th. If I’m headed east to troutdale, I just cut over on Shaver to 112th, then up to Marx street and east to 122nd, then up to Marine Drive.

It’s a shame we have to avoid these spots, but lately the 205 path has been the bad part of my otherwise fun rides. That part of the path really is an afterthought, and doesn’t work in these trying times as the nature of an overpass means it provides shelter and spots to camp.

Less fun for that citizen of Portlandia.

I went through this spot a couple weeks ago. There was someone who was sitting on the trail, with some stuff piled on the other side, right under the overpass. I said “coming through” several times and got sworn at. Not good.

I wouldn’t mind if the campers kept the trail clear.

Over the past few years I’ve been chased off the trail, been obstructed on purpose, even had a large knife flashed at me, all for the audacity of ringing my bell politely or even just making eye contact. The last thing I want is a physical confrontation, but I’m not ready to surrender our paths to threats and intimidation. I just want to pass safely without crashing into a person, dog, etc. Is that too much to ask?

On the northern end of the path heading towards Marine drive I was riding by a camp (very carefully) and had a piece of wood thrown at my back and called a homophobic slur. I was so shaken after that all I could think about was getting home and trying to find a safe way to get there. I wasn’t sure who to call to report it but I’ll never ride that path again, ever.

This one's kind of funny in an ironic way:

Since the city refuses to respond to this hazard By moving the camp off the trail, it would be helpful if they would at least post a “Trail Closed” or “Caution Trail Narrows Ahead” sign. Certainly this gives new meaning to MUP (multi-use path)

Multi-use path, and I get to define what "multi-use" means.

This one gives some inkling of the stresses of doublethink:

Any community opposition to Joint Office of Homeless Services and/or homelessness services sponsored services are well founded in my opinion. Don’t just take what the city says at face value. You’re getting gas lit by the City of Portland and organizations that stand to gain from the funds.

The large vacant lot at NW Glisan/NW Broadway has been made into a sanctioned bum camp site. Go drive around that area at 3AM and you draw your own conclusion if that made any difference in shadiness of that general area. They also opened up a sanctioned campsite with rules in the large lot by Hawthorne / Water Avenue. Look at what’s happening just outside the property. Derelict vehicles everywhere and many out of state bums with Washington and California plates. This is why residents and businesses oppose even though they’re often criticized by homeless advocates as selfish. Many of their payroll, thus livelihood is directly dependent on being able to keeping their services relevant by perpetuating homelessness.

There is a lot of income at stake by organizations with vested interest more so than ever before with the unfortunate passage of the homeless service tax.

Like it or not, regardless of the “bicycle and pedestrian friendly” attitude they take, the enforcement discretion is infinitely variable and bicycle path and ADA accessibility are considered low priority. While there’s nothing official in documented public policy, a call to the police non-emergency about bum related obstruction will quickly reveal the nuance of this. A bum related motorized vehicle lane blockage will generally result in police being sent while bum related bicycle lane blockage and ADA violations are pushed over to HUCIRP. If it’s in motorized vehicle lanes, they consider that a police matter.

I’m glad many have noticed nothing happening after reporting. There’s a good chance the city is ignoring it. “Auditors also found the city frequently ignores hundreds of residents’ complaints.” Portland homeless camps clean-up program needs improving, auditors say - oregonlive.com 1

A good number of readers won’t agree with my point of view, but before you criticize my post, I would really appreciate it if you make a personal field visit in the pre-dawn hours around those newly approved sanctioned sites first. Just the other day, I spotted a stack of about 4-5 incomplete bicycles next to a tent on the strip of Broadway along the vacant lot.


28 posted on 07/16/2021 1:49:10 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: All

When ever any hard-core libtard talks about what a problem these areas are, and thinks “if only the government would do something”, I tell them that they already did- they created them.


29 posted on 07/16/2021 2:01:41 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: Steely Tom; econjack
I think I saw two non-whites.

But the rider on the top of the web site is black. Did they hire someone to make the web site look less racist? Maybe the picture is photoshopped.

30 posted on 07/16/2021 2:13:26 PM PDT by mcenedo (lying liberal media, our most dangerous and powerful enemy)
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To: Robert A Cook PE
Their politics = Their ideology = Their Religion

You might have added " = their identity.

31 posted on 07/16/2021 2:20:24 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Freedom4US
And this is the problem. “Your death, before their dishonor”, as it were.

It is both, in some cases.

People, in general, have a very difficult time changing their worldview. They built their life around that worldview.

It takes a "Paul on the road to Damascas" type event to change it, in most cases.

32 posted on 07/16/2021 2:22:51 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: marktwain
It takes a "Paul on the road to Damascas" type event to change it, in most cases.

Yes, precisely. And if you read the comments on some of the more political articles at the BikePortland website, you can see where people actually experience "Road to Damascus" — type incidents and have their beliefs challenged, and talk about it. That's what I found so interesting about the site.

Take a look at the comments after this article:

Portland’s bike advisory committee will apologize to Commissioner Hardesty for conduct ‘endemic of systemic racism’.

33 posted on 07/16/2021 2:32:03 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: marktwain
Here's a picture of "Commissioner Hardesty":


34 posted on 07/16/2021 2:34:29 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Steely Tom

I used to do the Seattle to portland bike ride and bike commute to my job. Did both for about 20 years. I was also a member of the Cascade Bicycle Club. I was pretty much the only conservative in the organization, nearest I could tell. I got into a pretty heated discussion with the president regarding helmet laws (I was again’ ‘em).

I cancelled my membership after one year.


35 posted on 07/16/2021 2:40:13 PM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: Steely Tom

BFL


36 posted on 07/16/2021 2:41:38 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Steely Tom

>>I wasn’t sure who to call to report it

Rider was just assaulted and doesn’t know you call the police. That he or she probably wants to defund. Who probably won’t do anything about the perp, because the Soros DA will just drop the charges, and it’s not worth the paperwork.

It’s a really screwed up situation they’ve created for themselves.


37 posted on 07/16/2021 2:50:27 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Steely Tom
"this is a very complex problem that's not going away."

Around here it is, "Unless you are willing to take them into your home and be responsible for their every need, you may NOT complain."

38 posted on 07/16/2021 2:55:14 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I’m running that far! )
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To: FreedomPoster
It’s a really screwed up situation they’ve created for themselves.

I like they way they use the word "shady" or "sketchy" to describe the alternative lifestyles of persons having non-conventional living arrangements.

They have no self-awareness at all. They don't realize that they're just as much guilty of being immersed in a middle-class lifestyle as the "normals" they criticize.

39 posted on 07/16/2021 2:58:54 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: econjack

They all make my skin crawl.


40 posted on 07/16/2021 3:19:38 PM PDT by sauropod (The smartphone is the retina of the mind's eye.)
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