Posted on 07/11/2021 10:56:24 AM PDT by ransomnote
[h/t Qiviut (Faith is the antidote to fear. Mindset: be a victor, not a victim.)]
Are Pfizer and Moderna misleading the public about the efficacy of their COVID vaccines by withholding the fact that there’s another way to parse their data — one that has more real-world significance?
In his introduction, Huff wrote: “Averages and relationships and trends and graphs are not always what they seem.” He added: “There may be more in them than meets the eye, and there may be a good deal less.”
Almost 70 years later, Huff’s admonition that a “well-wrapped statistic” can “sensationalize, inflate, confuse and oversimplify” seems more relevant than ever. For a pertinent modern-day example, one need look no further than COVID vaccine developers’ “headline-worthy” but misleading claims about their products’ “95% effectiveness.” As BMJ associate editor Peter Doshi and others have been confirming for months, these efficacy data are largely a matter of statistical smoke and mirrors.
Why are manufacturers’ claims about vaccine effectiveness misleading? Pfizer and Moderna declined to share with the public the fact that there is another way to parse their data that has more real-world significance.
Examining a statistic called absolute risk reduction — the number of percentage points that an individual’s risk goes down if they do something “protective” — the two companies’ COVID vaccines barely make a dent at all, reducing someone’s risk of experiencing COVID symptoms (the clinical trials’ endpoint) by less than 1%. This is the practical number that people are likely to care about most.
Knowing the paltry real-world impact of the injections on someone’s risk of developing COVID symptoms, how many people swayed by the misleading “95% effective” mantra might instead have decided to refuse the vaccines — products that have revealed themselves to be highly unsafe and, in some cases, fatal?
Unfortunately, topping its November efficacy claims for people 16 years and older, Pfizer just announced its COVID injection is “100% effective for 12-to-15 year-olds.” This announcement sets the stage for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA’s) predicted authorization of Pfizer’s unlicensed vaccine for the adolescent market.
Parents who know that COVID rarely poses a threat to children and adolescents may already be planning to keep their kids away from the experimental shots, but there are other reasons for taking Pfizer’s latest grandiose claims with a grain of salt.
“ Slightly overweight
If your BMI is over 25, you are in a higher risk group.
PS -.your opinion was filed appropriately
Hal Turner just broke this on his show. A Russian hacker went on the dark web and found a database that shows vaccinated people’s info (vital signs, their exact GPS coordinates, whether they are sleeping or awake) being uploaded in real time. People who have received the jab are now being tracked in real time by the 5G networks. They have become transmitters, transmitting all info about themselves back to the mother-ship aka the AI receiver. This is wild.... It also shows the exact info of the firmware, CPU info and processor that is inside the person.
I have no way to confirm the validity of this, but if true, people getting the vaccine, are getting more than they bargained for. Is this only in Russia? Something makes me doubt that it is, if it's true.
Just for the sake of sharing info...not attempting to exploit sentiments regarding The Great FR Debate on “To Jab or Not to Jab”...Covid data from morning coffee “counter intelligence” klatch of about 10 members, all over 60: 1 dead (unvaxxed, w/comorbidity); 1 hospitalized eight days, O2 for two months (unvaxxed overweight); several tested positive & quarantined (no symptoms)
Examining a statistic called absolute risk reduction — the number of percentage points that an individual’s risk goes down if they do something “protective” — the two companies’ COVID vaccines barely make a dent at all, reducing someone’s risk of experiencing COVID symptoms (the clinical trials’ endpoint) by less than 1%.
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Heard this discussion of Absolute vs Relative Risk reduction talked about on a Dark Horse podcast about a month ago. Most people have very little analytic skill or even the ability to understand basic probabilities, so you can easily wow them by throwing out a statement like ‘95% effective’.
People begin to parrot that phrase without even questioning it. In their head they thin it means they have reduced their risk of catching the virus by 95%. They haven’t.
Billions and billions and billions of dollars in profit for these vaccines. And yes you will “require” a booster every year... forever.
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Projected $26 billion for Pfizer alone for the covid vaccine.
https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/features/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-revenue/
My cardiologist wanted me to go on a statin. He said that the American Heart Association says that it will reduce my chance of a heart attack by 30%. I am very athletic and my cholesterol is only marginally high.
I asked, “If you had a 100 men my age and in condition how many would die of a heart attack in the next year?” He said maybe 1. So..... taking a statin takes my risk down from 1% to 0.7%. I decided that I would rather take the 0.3% risk than have the side effects of a statin.
Only one chance in 20 it will kill you? 95̀% effective for what? Just what is the goal of administering these shots? Population reduction? If so we will start finding out in a year or two. It wouldn’t get very far if the lethality were instant. Bill Gates thinks this is just the bees knees. Bill Gates’s passion is population reduction so the hoi polloi will no longer clutter up the parkland earth and mar the enjoyment of the anointed.
It wouldn’t get very far if the lethality were instant.
A point often overlooked.
The “vaccine” is its own new risk factor—don’t want that poison in my body...
The human immune system is at least 99% effective against the virus.
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Correct. The suspicious thing about this hoax is the scrubbing of prevention, never heard. Deaths are from the elderly, and existing medical conditions. Americans by and large do not eat right, do not excercise and sit indoors. They want a quick fix, jabs- excercising, getting outdoors, eating right never enters their lazy minds. God almighty created our body in his image, follow his pure and righteous guidelines -work, take care of your vessel, give thanks and he will do the rest.
This “absolute risk” math can easily be debunked. It is missing a core variable: time.
The trial covered 28 days post vaccination. Sure only 0.7% developed COVID over that time, but how many would over a full year, or a full decade without the vaccine?
Do those numbers and all of a sudden the same “absolute risk” calculation is preventing a huge number of cases.
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Many of the vaccinated would prove ill over a long period of time and many would be having severe medical problems. More time would NOT help the efficacy of the ‘vaccine’.
Israel put it at 64% effective.
Sorry me for me yelling here BUT THE NY TIMES DISCLOSED THESE NUMBERS BACK IN DECEMBER 2020 and they have been posted on Free Republic many times since then. Since many people don’t read the articles and STILL WON’T understand these SIMPLE CALCULATIONS, I will summarize them here BECAUSE THEY ARE THAT IMPORTANT. I promise you that you can REDPILL your EMPLOYER and family AND friends about the effective rate of the VACCINE because NOBODY understands these SIMPLE CALCULATIONS. I will also share ONE ADDITIONAL FACT THAT ALSO ALWAYS BLOWS PEOPLE’S MINDS.
In the Pfizer study 200,000 got a placebo (water saltine solution) and 200,000 got the vaccine. The people weren’t told if they got the placebo or vaccine BIG ASTERISK HERE, Keep reading. In the placebo group, 0.74 got Covid. In the vaccine group, 0.04 got Covid. SO BOTH GROUPS WERE WELL UNDER ONE PERCENT. The effective rate your hear about is calculated this way: subtract .04 from .74 and divide the result (0.70) by 0.74 and - Shazam - you get 95 percent. So anyone who takes this experimental non-approved vaccine is taking it to reduce the risk from .74 to .04. The media, pharma and libs and many RINOS have entirely misled the country and world re what that effective rate really stands for, preventing most people from making a truly informed decision.
“ Israel put it at 64% effective.”
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Yeah that’s why Israel wants more.
The ASTERISK KICKER - so how did Pfizer determine if someone in the study had Covid or not?!? Duh, they gave all 400,000 people Covid tests at the end of each week right? NOPE. Instead, people self-reported their symptoms, Pfizer interpreted them and then Pfizer determined whether to Covid test them or not. What makes this procedure even more outrageous? Almost all of the people who received the vaccine ABSOLUTELY KNEW THEY DID BECAUSE AT A MINIMUM THEY HAD ARM PAIN as does almost anyone who gets it reports but as we also know many of them BECAME SICK WITH FLU-LIKE SYMPTOMS. Why is this so important? Because these people were self reporting their symptoms during the study. In other words, if I know I got the vaccine because I was sore and/or sick, I will be less inclined to report my Covid symptoms to Pfizer because I would consciously or unconsciously believe they weren’t actually caused by Covid. So, the 0.04 numbers is without question higher and almost certainly exceeds the .74 placebo group because those numbers were practically the same to begin with.
Sure, but that’s a different argument.
Do you accept that some basic mathematical literacy disproves the argument you linked to?
A 95 YO woman, a 60 obese woman smoker with COPD, and a 67 YO man in stage 4 cancer and obese also got the so call killer flu of Covid, we all survived quite nicely thank you. The ambulance took the 95 yo woman, and brought her back home in 4 hours. Myself drove to the hospital, they kept me long enough to dehydrate me and do nothing. The 60 YO woman drank plenty of fluids, took aspirin and I shoved Quercitin, Zinc, C and D3 into her body like I did mine. Used an asthma inhaler, and the lung exerciser plastic thing often. We coughed it up like normal.
When Polio was an epidemic:
Kids in the Iron Lung. Polio would paralyze these kids lungs rendering them unable to breathe. These machines did the work of their muscles enabling them to breathe.
Actually the vaccines are COVID-19’s condom. Thanks for letting me make that connection.
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