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Arkansas Deputy Kills Teen 'Armed' With Antifreeze Trying To Fix a Truck
Reason ^ | 06/29/21 | Scott Shackford

Posted on 06/30/2021 11:04:23 AM PDT by Fido969

Add "bottle of antifreeze" to the list of common objects law enforcement officers have mistaken for deadly weapons and then used to justify shooting—and, in this case, killing—an unarmed citizen...

King told local ABC affiliate KATV news that the truck wouldn't properly shift into park, so Brittain went to the back of the truck with a jug of antifreeze to prop behind a truck's tire so that it wouldn't roll backward and strike Davis' vehicle. That's when Davis fired at Brittain, and according to King, Davis didn't tell him to stop or get on the ground. He just shot him.

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KEYWORDS: arkansas; badcopnodonut; banglist; donutwatch; hunterbrittain; lonokecounty; lonokecountysheriff; mikedavis
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To: FatherofFive
When you keep dipping lower into the applicant pool, you get folks with poor judgment. LEO is no longer a desired occupation.

When you pay your deputies between $12.55 and $15.09 an hour the quality of your applicant pool likely isn't that great to begin with.

61 posted on 06/30/2021 12:18:39 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: wardaddy
Jeff questioning cops is no more knee jerk Than sayin they are always right

Straw man.

62 posted on 06/30/2021 12:19:22 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: caseinpoint
Had he stayed in the truck and explained that he didn’t trust his park gear when the cop came up to the vehicle, it probably would have been a minor inconvenience.

Had Ashlee Babbitt not tried to climb through that window then she'd be alive and working on a plea deal, right?

63 posted on 06/30/2021 12:20:36 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Leaning Right

I haven’t had crisis training either but I know better than to exit a vehicle stopped by police at 3 am.


64 posted on 06/30/2021 12:24:25 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: caseinpoint

> I haven’t had crisis training either but I know better than to exit a vehicle stopped by police at 3 am. <

Even if you were 17 years old, and your truck was in danger of rolling backwards?

I’m an old guy now. Not much shakes me up. If a UFO landed in my backyard I’d probably calmly finish my coffee before calling the authorities. But when I was that kid’s age, I was easily spooked. Most kids that age are.

So, yes. It was a stupid thing for the kid to do. But it was much stupider for the deputy to assume that everyone walking towards him - even at night - must be a deadly threat, and so must be shot.


65 posted on 06/30/2021 12:33:23 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: DoodleDawg

“When you pay your deputies between $12.55 and $15.09 an hour the quality of your applicant pool likely isn’t that great to begin with.”

That is exactly right. So what you end up with are applicants who psychologically WANT the authority to screw with the public and get a kick out of it.

I have personally met and got to know at least 20 of these characters in my lifetime.

And I don’t know when the last time you checked, but they are making much more than that now.


66 posted on 06/30/2021 12:35:18 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: caseinpoint

When I was a kid, we were taught that cops were in general safe.

I teach my kids to treat cops like I would a rabid dog. Avoid if at all possible. Do not approach, because if they get spooked, you die and the cop gets a pat on the head.

We need to stop treating cops like they can do no wrong, and start holding them accountable. Nationwide chest cams would be a start. And before you say that violates their rights, every work place I have worked in since 1998 has cameras. It is part of life.

THIS was manslaughter at best.


67 posted on 06/30/2021 12:38:33 PM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: Leaning Right

My point is that we don’t have enough information to make a judgment call either way. We can talk hypotheticals all day but it won’t solve anything. A recent poll indicated just 30 percent of Americans trust the media but it is amazing how often a single news story on a particular subject can set off people. Why do we trust we have enough facts to make a judgment? Let the information come out and then argue justice.


68 posted on 06/30/2021 12:38:48 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: Leaning Right

Do they teach “How to survive and live through a traffic stop by Law Enforcement” courses? Should they now? The bigger question is why should these even be needed. It should not be so... Something is broken...


69 posted on 06/30/2021 12:41:20 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind; DoodleDawg

Police officer pay varies wildly in my neck of the woods. The big city cops make very good money. And full-time deputy sheriffs can do the same.

But small-town cops can make very little. And part-timers make even less. A guy I know worked part-time for a small police force near me. He made a dollar over minimum wage ((not kidding) with no benefits. He hung on for a couple years, hoping to be hired on full-time. Eventually he quit.


70 posted on 06/30/2021 12:44:14 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: caseinpoint

First, the stop was at 3 am, for Pete’s sake. It’s dark.

Street lights? Cop car headlights? Not that dark. No excuse.


71 posted on 06/30/2021 12:44:30 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Leaning Right

I know some who would do it for minimum wage just because they get off on the authority. Know one right now who volunteers full time full shifts as retired just because he gets off on the authority that comes with the job.

I liken it to folks wanting to become truck drivers just so that they can legally blow the air horns. It is not the driving... It is all about getting off on scaring other folks with those air horns.


72 posted on 06/30/2021 12:50:44 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: jonascord

There are a number of problems, all of them intentionally created.

You’ve got departments that don’t want well trained, intelligent candidates. They want snowflakes, they get snowflakes.

The job has gotten so risky, and not just because of the perps, that the kind of people you’d really like to have apply just won’t do it.

Then you’ve got the problem of departments that, for various bad reasons, are running older, more experienced officers, the ones less inclined to blindly follow illegal orders, out so they can be replaced with said snowflakes.

This is all being done deliberately with the goal down the road of federalizing the fuzz.


73 posted on 06/30/2021 12:55:21 PM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: PIF

Well, I guess you are omniscient so go ahead and start weaving the noose for the cop. I will wait and see what else comes out.


74 posted on 06/30/2021 12:56:15 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: DoodleDawg
The average Police Officer salary in Arkansas is $53,700 as of May 27, 2021

https://www.salary.com/research/salary/alternate/police-officer-salary/ar

75 posted on 06/30/2021 12:56:35 PM PDT by FatherofFive (We support Trump. Not the GOP)
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To: Fido969

I study these. These are the worst I’ve seen:

Cop shoots old guy for getting his cane out of the bed of his truck:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2579654/Police-dashcam-shows-South-Carolina-cop-shoot-70-year-old-Vietnam-veteran-man-reached-truck-cane-routine-traffic-stop.html

Cop shoots guy for getting driver’s license that the cop asked for:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFYTtgZAlE

I don’t know what the result was in the first one, but the second one went to prison.


76 posted on 06/30/2021 1:05:40 PM PDT by suthener ( )
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To: Fido969
"a SWAT wrong house raid (because often in those cases the police haven’t really notified the people inside that’s it’s the police)"

This is what was so great about the collapse of the St. Breonna #Narrative, the guy who told the cops to 'git' but incidentally acknowledged they identified themselves as police repeatedly, his testimony almost solely nulled the GJ. Then when Walker opened fire anyway and got St. Bre killed, Walker initially blamed St. Bre for firing the shot!

77 posted on 06/30/2021 1:08:40 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting Systems Is The Blue Dress.)
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To: suthener
Cop shoots old guy for getting his cane out of the bed of his truck:

Old people have expectations that the cops will be reasonable. "Cop pulls me over? I'll just get out and talk to him, and we'll have a chat about the situation..."

Cop: BLAM BLAM BLAM.

At least in that case the cop was apologetic. Also, they didn't roust his wife, hogtie her, drag here around on the ground, and make her wait in the police car for 3 hours like they did the buddy of the kid who was killed.

The one with the driver's licence was amazing.

Cop: "Can I see your drivers licence"

Citizen: "Sure thing, sir, it's right here..."

Cop: BLAM BLAM BLAM

Citizen: "What did I do, sir?"

In that case, it was the citizen who was apologizing: "I'm sorry, sir..."

78 posted on 06/30/2021 1:22:14 PM PDT by Fido969 ( Sc)
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To: redgolum
Do not approach, because if they get spooked, you die and the cop gets a pat on the head.

Yes, I remember these signs showed up in Minneapolis after Justine Damond was killed by a nervous cop.

79 posted on 06/30/2021 1:29:56 PM PDT by Fido969 ( Sc)
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To: suthener

How cops think:

1) I sure look cool in my uniform, badge and gun.
2) Every person that is not a cop is guilty of something.
3) I sure look cool in my uniform, badge and gun.
4) I need to get some more OT this week.
5) I sure look cool in my uniform, badge and gun.
6) That guy has a hot girlfriend. I need to bust his chops to make sure his girlfriend knows how cool I look in uniform, badge and gun.

7) Steroids are illegal, but I need to take them to be tougher and stronger than the public.
8) Why are people always waving at me driving around in cool patrol car? Don’t they know I hate them? If I just look forward I won’t have to acknowledge their wave.

Feel free to add your own.


80 posted on 06/30/2021 1:38:31 PM PDT by shotgun
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