Posted on 06/30/2021 11:04:23 AM PDT by Fido969
Add "bottle of antifreeze" to the list of common objects law enforcement officers have mistaken for deadly weapons and then used to justify shooting—and, in this case, killing—an unarmed citizen...
King told local ABC affiliate KATV news that the truck wouldn't properly shift into park, so Brittain went to the back of the truck with a jug of antifreeze to prop behind a truck's tire so that it wouldn't roll backward and strike Davis' vehicle. That's when Davis fired at Brittain, and according to King, Davis didn't tell him to stop or get on the ground. He just shot him.
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When you pay your deputies between $12.55 and $15.09 an hour the quality of your applicant pool likely isn't that great to begin with.
Straw man.
Had Ashlee Babbitt not tried to climb through that window then she'd be alive and working on a plea deal, right?
I haven’t had crisis training either but I know better than to exit a vehicle stopped by police at 3 am.
> I haven’t had crisis training either but I know better than to exit a vehicle stopped by police at 3 am. <
Even if you were 17 years old, and your truck was in danger of rolling backwards?
I’m an old guy now. Not much shakes me up. If a UFO landed in my backyard I’d probably calmly finish my coffee before calling the authorities. But when I was that kid’s age, I was easily spooked. Most kids that age are.
So, yes. It was a stupid thing for the kid to do. But it was much stupider for the deputy to assume that everyone walking towards him - even at night - must be a deadly threat, and so must be shot.
“When you pay your deputies between $12.55 and $15.09 an hour the quality of your applicant pool likely isn’t that great to begin with.”
That is exactly right. So what you end up with are applicants who psychologically WANT the authority to screw with the public and get a kick out of it.
I have personally met and got to know at least 20 of these characters in my lifetime.
And I don’t know when the last time you checked, but they are making much more than that now.
When I was a kid, we were taught that cops were in general safe.
I teach my kids to treat cops like I would a rabid dog. Avoid if at all possible. Do not approach, because if they get spooked, you die and the cop gets a pat on the head.
We need to stop treating cops like they can do no wrong, and start holding them accountable. Nationwide chest cams would be a start. And before you say that violates their rights, every work place I have worked in since 1998 has cameras. It is part of life.
THIS was manslaughter at best.
My point is that we don’t have enough information to make a judgment call either way. We can talk hypotheticals all day but it won’t solve anything. A recent poll indicated just 30 percent of Americans trust the media but it is amazing how often a single news story on a particular subject can set off people. Why do we trust we have enough facts to make a judgment? Let the information come out and then argue justice.
Do they teach “How to survive and live through a traffic stop by Law Enforcement” courses? Should they now? The bigger question is why should these even be needed. It should not be so... Something is broken...
Police officer pay varies wildly in my neck of the woods. The big city cops make very good money. And full-time deputy sheriffs can do the same.
But small-town cops can make very little. And part-timers make even less. A guy I know worked part-time for a small police force near me. He made a dollar over minimum wage ((not kidding) with no benefits. He hung on for a couple years, hoping to be hired on full-time. Eventually he quit.
First, the stop was at 3 am, for Pete’s sake. It’s dark.
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Street lights? Cop car headlights? Not that dark. No excuse.
I know some who would do it for minimum wage just because they get off on the authority. Know one right now who volunteers full time full shifts as retired just because he gets off on the authority that comes with the job.
I liken it to folks wanting to become truck drivers just so that they can legally blow the air horns. It is not the driving... It is all about getting off on scaring other folks with those air horns.
There are a number of problems, all of them intentionally created.
You’ve got departments that don’t want well trained, intelligent candidates. They want snowflakes, they get snowflakes.
The job has gotten so risky, and not just because of the perps, that the kind of people you’d really like to have apply just won’t do it.
Then you’ve got the problem of departments that, for various bad reasons, are running older, more experienced officers, the ones less inclined to blindly follow illegal orders, out so they can be replaced with said snowflakes.
This is all being done deliberately with the goal down the road of federalizing the fuzz.
Well, I guess you are omniscient so go ahead and start weaving the noose for the cop. I will wait and see what else comes out.
https://www.salary.com/research/salary/alternate/police-officer-salary/ar
I study these. These are the worst I’ve seen:
Cop shoots old guy for getting his cane out of the bed of his truck:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2579654/Police-dashcam-shows-South-Carolina-cop-shoot-70-year-old-Vietnam-veteran-man-reached-truck-cane-routine-traffic-stop.html
Cop shoots guy for getting driver’s license that the cop asked for:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFYTtgZAlE
I don’t know what the result was in the first one, but the second one went to prison.
This is what was so great about the collapse of the St. Breonna #Narrative, the guy who told the cops to 'git' but incidentally acknowledged they identified themselves as police repeatedly, his testimony almost solely nulled the GJ. Then when Walker opened fire anyway and got St. Bre killed, Walker initially blamed St. Bre for firing the shot!
Old people have expectations that the cops will be reasonable. "Cop pulls me over? I'll just get out and talk to him, and we'll have a chat about the situation..."
Cop: BLAM BLAM BLAM.
At least in that case the cop was apologetic. Also, they didn't roust his wife, hogtie her, drag here around on the ground, and make her wait in the police car for 3 hours like they did the buddy of the kid who was killed.
The one with the driver's licence was amazing.
Cop: "Can I see your drivers licence"
Citizen: "Sure thing, sir, it's right here..."
Cop: BLAM BLAM BLAM
Citizen: "What did I do, sir?"
In that case, it was the citizen who was apologizing: "I'm sorry, sir..."
Yes, I remember these signs showed up in Minneapolis after Justine Damond was killed by a nervous cop.
How cops think:
1) I sure look cool in my uniform, badge and gun.
2) Every person that is not a cop is guilty of something.
3) I sure look cool in my uniform, badge and gun.
4) I need to get some more OT this week.
5) I sure look cool in my uniform, badge and gun.
6) That guy has a hot girlfriend. I need to bust his chops to make sure his girlfriend knows how cool I look in uniform, badge and gun.
7) Steroids are illegal, but I need to take them to be tougher and stronger than the public.
8) Why are people always waving at me driving around in cool patrol car? Don’t they know I hate them? If I just look forward I won’t have to acknowledge their wave.
Feel free to add your own.
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