Posted on 06/28/2021 6:58:21 PM PDT by BenLurkin
The contractor visited the condo building last week to put together a bid for a cosmetic restoration of the pool as well as to price out new pool equipment — a small piece of the multimillion-dollar restoration project that just was getting underway at the 40-year-old building.
In the pool equipment room, located on the south side of the underground garage, the contractor saw another problem — exposed and corroding rebar in the concrete slab overhead. He snapped some pictures and sent them to his supervisor along with a note expressing concern that the job might be a bit more complicated than expected. He worried they would have to remove pool pipes to allow concrete restoration experts access to repair the slabs.
The building caved in two days later, before they had time to complete their bid.
A commercial pool contractor indicated where he saw serious corrosion in the Champlain Towers South pool equipment room in a photo he took two days before the building collapsed. COURTESY
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The location of the deep pool of standing water and cracked concrete and corroded rebar in the garage of Champlain Towers South condo, as pointed out by a pool contractor who toured the property two days before the collapse. EDUARDO ALVAREZ
(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...
yeah, several large metro areas are combined county-city governments (e.g., denver) but the vast majority of cities are incorporated and independent of the counties they’re in, except for paying county taxes of course ...
HOA was doing its normal head in the sand routine. Unfortunately this time it didn’t end up just being an expensive problem, but a deadly one.
Agree with your agree.
Just for practice?
You are hilarious. The HOA fee alone was 900 a month. I doubt any were on any form of welfare. Who cares anyway. We still are looking for bodies.
Yup... I would like to know if that building has the same issues as the one that collapsed. We need some photo’s from down under.
Everyone.
I worked on a project where they had to demolish a 12-story building that was only 8 years old. Somebody didn’t put a dab of epoxy on the ends of each exposed rebar and they rusted out.
I mentioned to a construction guy (my client) about that - how important even the least important task his.
“Well yeah - but his boss is supposed to check his work. And the project manager is supposed to review it. And the building inspector. So it wasn’t just the guy on minimum wage - it was at least three levels above him that weren’t doing their jobs.”
Oh - the building was a build/own thing - built by the Carpenter’s Union! They were going to use the rent to pay for pensions and stuff.
Note the location of the bad concrete in relation to the device labelled “Chlorine”. Found the following on the web:
“Chlorine is absorbed on the concrete and the concrete becomes saturated. Chlorine is adsorbed in an isothermal way and equilibrium is established. Chlorine decay is accelerated on the surface of the concrete. if there is any acceleration in the rate and quantity of chlorine losses.”
What I don’t understand is how, a pool can cause damage at the opposite side of the property. Shouldn’t a line of damage be seen?
Damage is probably from a leaky faucet or a drain leading to nowhere.
I noticed something weird.
9 dead- 150 missing
10 dead-150 missing
11 dead- 150 missing.
Shouldn't there be less missing?
Maybe it's the new math stuff...
Until they positively ID the bodies, they are still listed as missing.
Sorry, that is not accurate.
I was watching the collapse news coverage on the Web when the first news choppers started broadcasting at sunrise.
The pool was intact, and full of water, in those first videos.
A patio area directly west of the pool had collapsed, but the pool itself looked completely normal.
The Mayor (?) of Miami-Dade seems to think she is the star of the press conferences. Perhaps that is where confusion lies, as well as news articles that reference “Miami.”
Not sure where you live, but you CLEARLY have no idea how expensive it is to live in an oceanfront tower in Miami...
Read the inspection report. The pool deck was designed without slope, so water accumulated on the slab from Day One.
The problem is the architects. Modern buildings have zero redundancy. They show very little signs before they fail. I’ve seen intentional demolitions where the building won’t fall, or rolls over instead of collapsing. It is not that much more expensive to make a solid building. I blame the designers and the underwriters.
I don't understand it, either. There are reports out there that the pool sunk .... I posted the before and after photos to show that the pool survived the collapse and is a distance from the buildings that came down.
I, too, am wondering if the root cause is water damage, where else could it have come from??
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