Posted on 06/22/2021 8:02:07 AM PDT by Red Badger
When President Joe Biden took Ford’s electric F-150 Lightning pickup for a test drive in Dearborn, Mich., in May, the event was more than a White House photo op. It marked a new phase in an accelerating shift from gas-powered cars and trucks to electric vehicles, or EVs.
In recent months, global auto manufacturers have released plans to electrify their vehicle fleets by 2030 or 2035, setting up a race to see who can most quickly shift entirely away from producing vehicles powered by gasoline.
, I see this moment as pivotal because unlike EVs from manufacturers such as Toyota or Tesla, the electric F-150 does not entirely rely on green consumer choice. It places the electric vehicle transition squarely in the hands of mass-market consumers who don’t choose vehicles based on environmental considerations. Like Biden, former President Donald Trump promised to create jobs in the auto industry. But Trump sought to do it by perpetuating a fossil-fueled system that is the largest source of U.S. greenhouse gas emissions. Auto makers benefited from some Trump policies in the short term, including the rollback of fuel economy standards. Now, however, they seem to be embracing the challenge of competing globally in a climate-constrained future.
As an environmental historian, I see this moment as pivotal because unlike EVs from manufacturers such as Toyota or Tesla the electric F-150 does not entirely rely on green consumer choice. It places the electric vehicle transition squarely in the hands of mass-market consumers who don’t choose vehicles based on environmental considerations, and who are buying far more light trucks—pickups, sport-utility vehicles and minivans—than cars today.
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And the battery pack weighs almost a Ton. You are pulling that around with you everywhere you go. If you are in a hilly area then there goes that range. The laws of physics say you are not going to hall that ton around with you for free. Picture driving your gas truck around with the bed full of bricks. The list of problems with EV’s is huge.
That is just 20 cents a kw here in California.....
People swelter in the heat of the summer and freeze in the winter to avoid the BIG electric bills for a/c and heat.
You clearly either didn't read a word I wrote, or failed to understand it.
>>When President Joe Biden took Ford’s electric F-150 Lightning pickup for a test drive in Dearborn, Mich., in May, the event was more than a White House photo op.
Did Barack Obama ever buy that Chevy Volt he promised to buy/own after he left the White House, if not why not?
No rolling blackouts. Prohibit charging vehicles when power usage is at a premium.
>>Why the hell would anybody buy it if not in an effort to be “green”?
Prohibit all other choices.
So heap more regulatory power on someone to oversee us all?
F150 is a cowboy cadillac. Those things are absolutely worthless for towing anything heavier than a bass boat.
Think I’ll hang onto my RAM 2500 and its 392 cubic inches of gas-guzzling Hemi horsepower.
In all honesty, and this is coming from an F-150 owner, while my truck can tow around 12,000 pounds (on paper), it’s more realistic to expect a good towing experience around 8000 and below. Why? Because when you start calculating tongue weight and balancing the trailer to bias 10-15% of its weight to the truck, you find that adding passengers and luggage will quickly push that payload to max and beyond.
For a short run, just taking something across town, I’d push the limit a bit, but for any kind of traveling or driving at speed, if you’re going to want to tow 10K or more, go with the 3/4 ton truck (F-250 or higher).
All that said, I’m very pleased with my 3.5 L eco boost twin-turbo V-6 engine. Push it and it runs like a scalded dog, but if you’re more gentle, keeping it below 75 on the freeway, I routinely get over 20 mpg (calculated, miles/gallon at each filli up) on a tank. Given the 36 gallon tank, that makes most 1-day drives easily possible on a single tank.
Car & Driver estimates the range at max-towing capacity is likely to be roughly 100-mile.
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And then how much down time for a recharge?
<>Rolling blackouts anyone?<>
The shortages we’ve witnessed just months into JoeBlow’s admin are just the beginning. They are assured under socialism and will only get worse.
The internal combustion engine and affordable gas represent unacceptable freedom, freedom that must come under state control.
When EV become the predominant feature of our transportation, rationing of electricity is guaranteed. Just as the Soviets made life less bad in Moscow and miserable in the country, count on more or less sufficient electricity in rat cities and extreme poverty in rural America due to electricity rationing.
Good point. I can almost guarantee there will be some power loss due to the conversion process, heat, etc. What is the percentage is and how different conditions, say, outside temperature, battery condition, etc. Or I have no idea. However, even if If it’s only one or 2% Once you factor in tens of thousands of cars it’s going to be a very large number.
Socialism promises goodies and leisure on earth but in the end delivers trickle up poverty and servitude.
Marx was a liar, for it is really socialist ideology that is the perfect opiate, and not just of the masses but of the elites too. It gives something like Salvationist zeal but with none of that messy deny yourself repentance guff. Small wonder that it has features so close to Islam, for it is very much a secular religion and a false gospel.
"Car & Driver estimates the range at max-towing capacity is likely to be roughly 100-miles[s]."
Exactly true when you are charging up tens of thousands of vehicles, especially as you pointed out, when people get home at 6:00 PM, immediately recharge their vehicle, while preparing meals .
That would be a significant power draw between the hours of 5 PM through 7:30 PM ;
I'm not sure the grid could handle the evening surge with all the home appliances operating at the same time.
The only realistic alternative would be to have separate electric meters for home appliance usage, and recharging stations on a timer to charge up during 'off peak' hours.
It’s probably safe to presume that the Lightening will employ a similar or identical system that’s on the Mach-E. I would describe that system as ‘meh.’ Using a Supercharger, it charges from 0-80% in roughly 40-minutes. Ford recommends that you only charge to 80% using a Supercharger to better preserve the batteries’ lifespan. Compared to the Tesla or Porsche system, that’s not what I would describe as relatively fast. Then again, it’s a lot cheaper than most Porsches and Teslas, so....
On a home 220V charger, the Lightening will take 14hrs.
Even if you say had EVs begin charging at 9:30 once the peak evening load of cooking, clothes washing, etc. has passed you are just gonna create a new peak load later. These hours of the day this is usually little winds and no sun, so all these EVs will be charged with eeeeevil coal, natural gas or nuclear. Hahaha.
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