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Transcript: UFOs & National Security with Luis Elizondo, Former Director, Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program
Washington Post ^

Posted on 06/09/2021 5:11:47 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

So again, back to your question. Is it from here, or is it from out there? We don’t really know. In fact, there’s lots of other options on the table. It could be from--as I’ve said before, it could be from outer space, inner space, or the space in between. As we begin to learn what quantum physics is and we begin to understand our place here on this little planet, we begin to realize that there’s a lot of other options. We judge the universe in five fundamental senses, the ways that we perceive the universe, and that’s touch, taste, hear, smell, et cetera. And if you can’t--if you can’t use those senses to look at something or measure it, then we really can’t interact with it.

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This may not necessarily be something from outer space. In fact, this could be something as natural to our very own planet as us, we’re just now at a point we’re beginning to technologically be able to interact and collect data. This could be something from under the oceans. This could be something from, yes, from outer space. We really don’t know. And this is why I think we really need to take a whole of government approach and look at this, because it is--day by day, it is seeming like more and more this conversation is shifting from a human technology--quite possibly, we don’t know for sure yet--but to something far more profound.

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Science; UFO's
KEYWORDS: aatip; astronomy; elizondo; luiselizondo; science; uaps; ufo; ufos
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To: elteemike

I think this stuff is beyond all of us.:-)


21 posted on 06/09/2021 6:25:21 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Flick Lives
"Perhaps a more technologically advanced species, more advanced by 200, 500, or 2,000 years, has figured out how to transport themselves instantaneously to any point in the universe.
Exactly this.

While I believe the prevailing opinion among theoretical physicists is 'folding space' or wormhole travel (so-called Minkowski wormholes) are probably not possible under the laws of physics as they're currently understood, most will admit that it's impossible to know for certain.

It's important to keep in mind that mere 60-years after man harnessed the power of electricity, we split the atom. Less than 100-years after man achieved powered, heavier-than-air flight, we did it again on a celestial body in our solar system. That's....amazing.

Think about where we'll be in another 100K-years. We literally can't imagine what's possible just as no one in the 19th century believed it would be possible to launch an autonomous, rotary drone on Mars on day. Think about where a civilization might be technologically if it were 100M-years older.

22 posted on 06/09/2021 6:27:21 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: Openurmind

Skinwalker Ranch too or is that one a hoax?


23 posted on 06/09/2021 6:46:57 AM PDT by Levy78
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To: RoosterRedux

Since we’ve discovered watermelons on Mars, I think we can say for sure UFO’s are aliens.


24 posted on 06/09/2021 7:10:56 AM PDT by Brookhaven
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To: Brookhaven
Since we’ve discovered watermelons on Mars, I think we can say for sure UFO’s are aliens.

And raciss!

25 posted on 06/09/2021 7:16:40 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Just quoting the New York Times.

https://futurism.com/new-york-times-watermelons-mars


26 posted on 06/09/2021 7:19:21 AM PDT by Brookhaven
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To: Levy78

Are you familiar with “Ley Lines”? There is a correlation of areas with the most sightings being along or at major intersections of Ley Lines. If you take a map of sighting hot spots in the US and put it next to a map of Ley Lines in the US there is a strong correlation of locations. Same all over the world. These major Ley Line intersections are where the portals are.

UFO hot spots

https://motherboard-images.vice.com/content-images/contentimage/no-id/1433439458930288.png

Ley Lines

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/31/54/40/315440946cb5e58806e602393d606bb3.jpg


27 posted on 06/09/2021 7:23:03 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

No. Not familiar. Thx will definitely look into this!


28 posted on 06/09/2021 7:31:54 AM PDT by Levy78
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To: elteemike

I think the possibility it is us from the future is very viable. But there is the ancient “unknown Species” question in our DNA. This points towards possible genetic manipulation and engineering from outside entities. I think the ancient Sumerians may have been on to something just as Stichen claims.

I am now to the thinking that we were created by ancient outsiders which would fit all ancient traditions and accounts. But what we see now is both us from the future checking up on us to make sure we don’t mess up their own existence in the future and outside entities.


29 posted on 06/09/2021 7:40:48 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Levy78

“You will NEVER get the authoritarian fed gov to say there is a power greater than them. Never.”

*****

That’s real talk right there, friends. You can bank on it.


30 posted on 06/09/2021 7:47:26 AM PDT by BusterDog
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To: PUGACHEV

I think you are seeing these as one or the other as static protocols. I think both can be manipulated in these portals as Time/Space portals. Not only can they choose entry and exit point locations, but also choose a time of which to exit a point.


31 posted on 06/09/2021 7:50:29 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: elteemike
The suggestion that UFOs are us from the future makes sense to me. It answers Fermi’s question of “Where are they?”, and it explains why they do not wish to expose themselves too overtly, so as not to disturb their own past too radically.

If these are time travelers, the next question is why they visiting us now. You would assume that if a time traveler had a choice of any time or place to be, he would choose those times and places of special significance. Knowing our near future better than we do, these would perhaps be times and places which the time traveler would appreciate as critical but we would not. This is a little disturbing, no?

32 posted on 06/09/2021 7:52:45 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: PUGACHEV

I think this a very plausible scenario and one that I think makes the most sense to explain these phenomenon


33 posted on 06/09/2021 7:57:15 AM PDT by Levy78
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To: Levy78

Something you will find very interesting is that one of the very major intersections happens to be the Bermuda Triangle. Famous of course for disappearances and other phenomenon which I think could have been time/space portal accidents.


34 posted on 06/09/2021 7:59:28 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: PUGACHEV

Thing is it is not just us seeing them now recently... It has been happening all along throughout the history of man and civilization. The historical reference to UFOs is gigantic. They are even found in ancient Christian paintings. There are several ancient accounts of huge past battles between UFOs. So they have been around for a long long time.


35 posted on 06/09/2021 8:06:49 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: PUGACHEV

I agree the idea of some approaching critical-for-the-future event is very disturbing...But I suppose it can be argued mankind has always lurked there?

Then again, if we are on the cusp of something totally self destructive, and somehow being nudged away from the brink, that’s a hopeful thought...

As far as exposure goes, they might have the same regard for us seeing them as we do the ants on the sidewalk seeing us...They’re simply going about whatever their business is without regard of us, confident in the superiority of their technology...


36 posted on 06/09/2021 8:45:37 AM PDT by elteemike (Light is faster than sound; that's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Is it from here, or is it from out there?

Cue close encounter music popcorn is ready.


37 posted on 06/09/2021 9:31:04 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Openurmind

Absolutely... There are static time/space portal locations both on land and in the sea. One of the most active is off the coast of Sao Paulo Brazil where sightings are common.

I wouldn’t discount the theory someone has established portal or Stargate to another location in the galaxy.


38 posted on 06/09/2021 9:46:33 AM PDT by Flick Lives (“Today we celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directives.”)
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To: Flick Lives

Yep, I think with these portals they can choose not only the destination exit point at other places in the universe but at what time/date they want to exit there.


39 posted on 06/09/2021 10:00:20 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: RoosterRedux

MR. ELIZONDO: Sure, so, yeah, I’ve said before this is something—and I guess I may have just said it again—but that this could be something from outer space, inner space, or frankly the space in between. There’s a lot of options out there. This could be something that is extra hyper dimensional. Now I don’t mean extradimensional in a woo-woo sense. I mean, extradimensional in a quantum physics sense. We know that the universe is full of shortcuts and loopholes.


40 posted on 06/09/2021 10:14:07 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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