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Pfizer and Moderna Covid vaccines work against Indian variant
The Daily Mail via MSN ^ | 18/05/2021 | Betsy Ladyzhets

Posted on 06/07/2021 9:09:26 PM PDT by familyop

Early evidence about B.1.617 and a related variant, B.1.618 - which also emerged in India - also suggested that vaccines and other common COVID treatments may not work against these strains...The NYU researchers found that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines both neutralize spike proteins from B.1.617 and B.1.618. While these neutralizing responses are not as strong as they would be against older coronavirus strains, the vaccines still provide much more protection than a prior coronavirus infection would. The results show that the vaccines are 'well within the cushion effect of the capability to protect against infection...

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To: Erik Latranyi

“Maybe because some children have comorbidities and need to be protected?“

Perhaps, but if that is the case, wouldn’t we see the trials full of kids with co-morbidities? If we look into it, the trial subjects with co-morbidities is shockingly low, and if it follows the adult trials, the number with co-morbidities will be zero.

Also, why the push to vaccinate everyone, including the healthy kids, who’s risk is essentially zero?

While logic follows your assumption, nothing so far, in our response to covid, has been logical.

We should all be protecting our kids from having an experimental injected into them. Quite simply there is no undoing what we are about to do. In no way shape or form does covid rise to the need of a rushed vaccine, much less an experimental one.


81 posted on 06/08/2021 6:36:49 AM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: phoneman08
Good morning vax killer.


82 posted on 06/08/2021 7:03:02 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: DugwayDuke
The evil ones are those discouraging the safe and effective vaccines.

That's impossible to be true. Because the so-called 'vaccines' are neither safe nor effective.

So, based on that truth, EVERYTHING you say is false and a lie.

At least with you, we know why you lie. We have discussed that already.

With most of these others, the only reason they tell the big lie, is they are illogical and stupid.

You are neither. Its the evil in you that compels you. Because you know better.


83 posted on 06/08/2021 7:07:50 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: DugwayDuke; ransomnote
Either you admit the vaccines are not a ‘poison’ or you’re accusing Trump of developing a poison to inject into peoples arms.

As Trump did not 'develop' the poison, I cannot accuse him of developing it. I would trust that the man himself would tell you the same, if he could stomach your presence long enough for you to ask him.

He does 'endorse' it, however. So I do accuse him of endorsing a poison. Happy?

You’ve accused Big Pharma of producing a vaccine that’s killing people. Can you explain why Big Pharma would want to kill it’s customers?

Here's the thing, the connection you are incapable of making and fail to see.

'Big Pharma' is not in control of itself. It is controlled by what I affectionately term 'The Derp (Deep) State'. Men like Bill Gates, and other elite billionaires who shall remain nameless for now (that's another conversation).

They, like most all international institutions, are controlled by this power structure. So its not correct to think of 'Big Pharma' as an independently acting body, with their own motives.

They do what they're told, and they are part and parcel of this world-wide struggle for hegemony between globalist, new world order derps and free men.

So, if that is true. You ask yourself why 'Big Pharma' would want to kill its customers. A careful study of Q and a critically thinking open mind will assist you in your thought process and lead you to the correct conclusions.

Are you capable of that?

p.s. Trump is fully aware of all this, and maneuvers as necessary.

#ExpandYourThinking

84 posted on 06/08/2021 7:27:53 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

bagster wrote:As Trump did not ‘develop’ the poison, I cannot accuse him of developing it. I would trust that the man himself would tell you the same, if he could stomach your presence long enough for you to ask him.”

You fail to acknowledge that Trump has, on many occasions, claimed credit for developing these vaccines.

bagster wrote: “So, if that is true. You ask yourself why ‘Big Pharma’ would want to kill its customers. A careful study of Q and a critically thinking open mind will assist you in your thought process and lead you to the correct conclusions.”

So, in order to believe that the vaccines are poisons, I have to believe the completely discredited cult QAnon conspiracy theory that a cabal of Satanic, cannibalistic pedophiles run a global child sex trafficking ring while taking time out to run the Deep State? (And run a pizza parlor too.)

As I’ve said before, the overlap between the QAnon cult and the anti-vaxxer cult is quite extensive.


85 posted on 06/08/2021 8:44:19 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: bagster

bagster wrote: “That’s impossible to be true. Because the so-called ‘vaccines’ are neither safe nor effective.”

The fact that over 888 millions have received the vaccine world wide and over 455 Million are fully vaccinated proves the safety of these vaccines. The fact that cases, infections, illnesses, hospitalizations, and deaths are dropping proves their effectiveness.


86 posted on 06/08/2021 8:49:08 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke; ransomnote
The fact that over 888 millions have received the vaccine world wide and over 455 Million are fully vaccinated proves the safety of these vaccines. The fact that cases, infections, illnesses, hospitalizations, and deaths are dropping proves their effectiveness.

The fact that 888 millions (?) have received the 'vaccine' world wide and over 455 million (?) are fully 'vaccinated' only proves there's a sh*tload of gullible, compliant sheep in the world and that the masters REALLY want them to take the 'vax'.

The fact that cases, infections, illnesses, hospitalizations, and deaths are dropping proves that the covid is not Captain Trips, the Black Plague, or the Walking Dead one (don't remember the name off-hand). It was very easy for the 'numbers to drop' when the 'numbers' were manipulated and exaggerated (for politics) in the first place. Manipulate one way, manipulate the other.

And give 'the vax' credit.

(you people will believe anything you're told)

It was always gonna burn out on its own, just like all 'plagues' do.

Bone up on reality.

Convenient that your fake 'vax' can now be given credit by the stupids. Even more convenient that you stupids still insist people take the Chinese potion.

The derps and heathen Chinee did their work well. You're all in.

But I'm not. And no amount of your foot stomping and silly stats and dumb assertions will ever make me be. I am pleased to announce that there are millions more just like me out there.

We are the remains of the human race. You mutants are....something else.

But it was always gonna be this way. It took lifetimes to set up these circumstances and create such a compliant, obedient population. Its almost not your fault.

But you coulda broke free at any time. Still can. Trouble is, they got their concoction in you now. And you'll likely take more as ordered.

#WeAreTheBorg


87 posted on 06/08/2021 9:17:35 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

bagster wrote: “(you people will believe anything you’re told)”

That’s hilarious coming from someone who espouses the QAnon hoax/conspiracy/cult.


88 posted on 06/08/2021 9:36:47 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke
That’s hilarious coming from someone who espouses the QAnon hoax/conspiracy/cult.

It is hilarious, right?

That we can think for ourselves, dig on our own, and each individually come to our own conclusions based on our very own research and brain.

Yes. I can see why that would be hilarious to you.

In the meantime, take your vax like a good dog.

Just made that myself. Am I awesome or what.


89 posted on 06/08/2021 10:21:59 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: ransomnote

I do NOT advocate any medical advice. It is entirely up to each individual to decide what they should do.

My own personal experience after 14 weeks is that the only side effect was tired feeling on next day, which lasted 1 day. After that no side effects whatsoever.

Ditto with about 100 seniors I have talked to in my condo complex. No one is sick and no one is dead after vaccines.


90 posted on 06/08/2021 3:32:34 PM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump saved Millions of lives with his warp speed push of vaccines, including my spouse.)
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To: bagster

Please do me a favor and DO NOT get the covid vaccine. But I may bring flowers to you in the hospital if you are inside a plastic tent isolated from friends and family. I will just leave the flowers at your room’s door.


91 posted on 06/08/2021 3:35:19 PM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump saved Millions of lives with his warp speed push of vaccines, including my spouse.)
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To: bagster

Hey it was free of cost, painless, and has caused me no side effects after 3.5 months. And I booked a cruise with the vaccine document, sailing in September this year.


92 posted on 06/08/2021 3:37:15 PM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump saved Millions of lives with his warp speed push of vaccines, including my spouse.)
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To: entropy12
Please do me a favor and DO NOT get the covid vaccine.

This is the one favor I will grant you.

But I may bring flowers to you in the hospital if you are inside a plastic tent isolated from friends and family. I will just leave the flowers at your room’s door.

You are sweet like my ex-girlfriend. Hey, you ain't her, are ya?


93 posted on 06/08/2021 3:40:06 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: entropy12; ransomnote
My own personal experience after 14 weeks is that the only side effect was tired feeling on next day, which lasted 1 day. After that no side effects whatsoever.

You never mention the brain damage.

What about the brain damage?


94 posted on 06/08/2021 3:41:52 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: entropy12
Hey it was free of cost, painless, and has caused me no side effects after 3.5 months. And I booked a cruise with the vaccine document, sailing in September this year.

And Uncle Sugar said so.

Mustn't upset Uncle Sugar.

Now you have your 'papers' and are free to walk about the cockpit.

Lucky.

And you have a malignant substance creeping through your old man body, eating away at your innards and turning you into a mutant freak who is no longer part of the human race, but a monster, set apart. And Uncle Sugar will command you to get more so that you may go on your old man cruises.

Not so lucky.

We will have to think of a name for your species.


95 posted on 06/08/2021 3:47:51 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: entropy12

At this point, I don’t think the worry is about any immediate side effects, but more about long term consequences. I’m choosing not to get vaccinated because I believe there are good therapeutics out there if I were to come down with the bat flu. Who knows, maybe the excessive vaccine push is because the government wants to immunize us against our own response weapon. The one thing I do know is that the media and deep state are scum that don’t deserve my trust.


96 posted on 06/08/2021 3:48:43 PM PDT by TBall
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To: entropy12; bagster

Go on in the room and visit him Tropy, you can tell him all about your wonderful cruises, maybe as well as your workout routine. Maybe have a chuckle about the people that have died from the vaxx, what the hell,its only a few thousand, I’m sure their families are good with it.
P.S. yea you did call anti vaxers “dirty vermin”, and “hold them responsible for all the deaths”. Like I said, you talk so gd much, you don’t know what you’re saying; get your ass on the ship with your 5-7000 captive audience,and talk away.


97 posted on 06/08/2021 3:49:52 PM PDT by crosdaddy
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To: crosdaddy

Hahaha do you know what is the ubiquitous joke on the ships?
It is I wonder what the poor people must be doing right now, besides cooking and cleaning at home.

My 37 the cruise coming up in September. If I add up all the days I have spent cruising the oceans, it is getting close to a whole year. Easily the most fun part of my life. Alright, the membership for 15 years at Royal Oaks Country club in Vancouver, WA was a blast as well, but it was different type of fun.


98 posted on 06/08/2021 5:05:57 PM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump saved Millions of lives with his warp speed push of vaccines, including my spouse.)
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To: bagster

Are you sure you can see the future many months and years away?
Is your name Nostradamus?

When will those effects of destroying my innards will show up?
It is already 3.5 months after 2nd shot, and nothing yet.


99 posted on 06/08/2021 5:09:01 PM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump saved Millions of lives with his warp speed push of vaccines, including my spouse.)
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To: familyop

How do they know? Hell those fake vaxes don’t even work well for the original covid 19.


100 posted on 06/08/2021 5:10:02 PM PDT by dforest (huh?)
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