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Mediation Fails, Alaska Cruise Season at Risk as CDC Battles Florida
Travel Pulse ^ | June 4, 2021 | Donald Wood

Posted on 06/04/2021 6:45:20 AM PDT by Capt. Tom

The federal lawsuit filed by the state of Florida against the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has continued to cause headaches as the cruise industry prepares to ramp up operations.

According to FOX 35 Orlando, representatives from Florida Governor Ron DeSantis’ office said the mediation between the state and CDC ordered by a federal judge last month has failed after lawyers involved declared an impasse.

A compromise between the two sides was not reached.

The lawsuit filed in April is based on the CDC’s updated Conditional Sailing Order, which calls for cruise lines to vaccinate at least 98 percent of crew members and 95 percent of passengers before being permitted to operate paid voyages.

Officials in Florida claim the CDC’s rulings were “arbitrary and capricious, unconstitutional and violate federal laws governing administrative procedures.” In response, DeSantis signed a law imposing fines of $5,000 for each customer asked to provide proof of a coronavirus vaccination during a sailing.

“Unfortunately, the CDC has opted to continue its ridiculous and unlawful regulations that target a single industry by imposing vaccine requirements — something no other business or industry must do,” DeSantis said. “The CDC did almost nothing to re-open sailing until Florida filed suit.”

“As Florida’s cruise lines address the CDC’s constantly changing labyrinth of requirements for safety plans and simulations, time is of the essence,” DeSantis continued.

With the case heading back to court, the Orlando Sentinel is reporting there are concerns among officials in the cruise industry that Alaska’s 2021 summer/fall season would be ruined if a judge rules in favor of Florida.

U.S. President Joe Biden recently signed a law that would allow cruise ships to sail to and from Alaska without stopping at non-American ports, thus skirting a Canadian law prohibiting vessels carrying more than 100 passengers until February 2022.

A win in court for Florida would result in an injunction against the CDC’s Conditional Sailing Order, resulting in ships operating itineraries to Alaska no longer being allowed to sail under the provisions of the federal law.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Travel
KEYWORDS: alaska; court; florida
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To: CodeToad
So, you think a business can mandate one medical treatment but not another, based on what exactly?

You really need it explained to you? Somehow I doubt any explanation will succeed but I'll try one last time. A vaccination will help protect their passengers from getting COVID. Legally it is proof that the cruise line is taking steps to protect its customers. What is castration supposed to protect their passengers from?

21 posted on 06/04/2021 8:47:05 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
If they want to require proof of vaccination before boarding then they should be able to do so.

Yes they can. And if they do they must pay a fine of $5,000 per instance to the State of Florida to do so. Florida law precludes the use of vax passports to sell goods or services.

See how that works?

22 posted on 06/04/2021 9:54:45 AM PDT by corkoman
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To: DoodleDawg

So, you think as long as the company is being altruistic they can demand medical treatment, or anything, really.

Therefore, if the company thinks not having a penis is good for their passengers then you have concluded that they could demand that too.

Got it. You are a liberal who thinks the ends justify the means, and you do not understand concepts of the constitution, law, individual freedoms, or personal property and choice, just intentions.

Thought so. It explains your entire pro-covid propaganda that you espouse.


23 posted on 06/04/2021 10:05:51 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: corkoman
See how that works?

Yes I do. It's no different than the state forcing the baker to make the cake for a gay wedding.

24 posted on 06/04/2021 10:16:42 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: CodeToad
So, you think as long as the company is being altruistic they can demand medical treatment, or anything, really.

Altruism has nothing to do with it. If business acting in what they perceive as their best interest, not yours.

Therefore, if the company thinks not having a penis is good for their passengers then you have concluded that they could demand that too.

I cannot imagine how you could stumble to that conclusion. But I will make you a promise. If a cruise line ever does demand castration before boarding I'll buy you a ticket.

Got it. You are a liberal who thinks the ends justify the means, and you do not understand concepts of the constitution, law, individual freedoms, or personal property and choice, just intentions.

And you're a big government statist who thinks the state should tell business what they can or can't do. So if you think the state is right in this case then I assume you think the state is also right in telling the baker to bake the cake for a gay wedding? Thought so.

25 posted on 06/04/2021 10:20:43 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: corkoman
The courts will rule that CDC has no authority to regulate commerce.

ROFL!! The courts ruled that Obamacare was a "tax" after they re-wrote it.

The courts also refused to hear arguments during the 2020 elections that some states violated their own Constitutions allowing bureaucrats to change election rules.

I place zero credibility in our court system anymore. Anyone who does embarks on a fools errand.

26 posted on 06/04/2021 10:24:19 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Capt. Tom

We’re going to cruise to Alaska in 74 days.


27 posted on 06/04/2021 12:02:11 PM PDT by steveo
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To: steveo
We’re going to cruise to Alaska in 74 days.

I have never done an Alaskan cruise, because I did most of my earlier cruises leaving near the end of Feb. and coming back in March.

Because of age and my wife's health, we have done the last 5 cruises Boston to Bermuda to Boston in October. No flying or hotel stays just the Cruise ships. Our October 2020 cruise to Bermuda got cancelled.

Hope you have a great trip. -Tom

28 posted on 06/04/2021 5:34:39 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (.It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -Tom)
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To: DoodleDawg

https://twitter.com/Wizard_Predicts/status/1401167185607901187?s=19

BREAKING: Royal Caribbean reverses, won’t require passengers on U.S. cruises to be vaccinated after Gov. DeSantis signed law to fine companies $5,000 every time they ask a customer for proof of vaccination. — Miami Herald


29 posted on 06/05/2021 10:27:09 AM PDT by chuck allen
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To: chuck allen

Hey Royal Caribbean. Bake the darned cake or else.


30 posted on 06/05/2021 3:03:36 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: chuck allen

Karen is devastated. Lol.


31 posted on 06/05/2021 7:13:36 PM PDT by TexasGurl24
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