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Mediation Fails, Alaska Cruise Season at Risk as CDC Battles Florida
Travel Pulse ^ | June 4, 2021 | Donald Wood

Posted on 06/04/2021 6:45:20 AM PDT by Capt. Tom

The federal lawsuit filed by the state of Florida against the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has continued to cause headaches as the cruise industry prepares to ramp up operations.

According to FOX 35 Orlando, representatives from Florida Governor Ron DeSantis’ office said the mediation between the state and CDC ordered by a federal judge last month has failed after lawyers involved declared an impasse.

A compromise between the two sides was not reached.

The lawsuit filed in April is based on the CDC’s updated Conditional Sailing Order, which calls for cruise lines to vaccinate at least 98 percent of crew members and 95 percent of passengers before being permitted to operate paid voyages.

Officials in Florida claim the CDC’s rulings were “arbitrary and capricious, unconstitutional and violate federal laws governing administrative procedures.” In response, DeSantis signed a law imposing fines of $5,000 for each customer asked to provide proof of a coronavirus vaccination during a sailing.

“Unfortunately, the CDC has opted to continue its ridiculous and unlawful regulations that target a single industry by imposing vaccine requirements — something no other business or industry must do,” DeSantis said. “The CDC did almost nothing to re-open sailing until Florida filed suit.”

“As Florida’s cruise lines address the CDC’s constantly changing labyrinth of requirements for safety plans and simulations, time is of the essence,” DeSantis continued.

With the case heading back to court, the Orlando Sentinel is reporting there are concerns among officials in the cruise industry that Alaska’s 2021 summer/fall season would be ruined if a judge rules in favor of Florida.

U.S. President Joe Biden recently signed a law that would allow cruise ships to sail to and from Alaska without stopping at non-American ports, thus skirting a Canadian law prohibiting vessels carrying more than 100 passengers until February 2022.

A win in court for Florida would result in an injunction against the CDC’s Conditional Sailing Order, resulting in ships operating itineraries to Alaska no longer being allowed to sail under the provisions of the federal law.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Travel
KEYWORDS: alaska; court; florida
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The slow motion train wreck continues with the court involvement.-Tom
1 posted on 06/04/2021 6:45:20 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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The courts will rule that CDC has no authority to regulate commerce. This will ensure that for future Chinese-sponsored pandemics the politicians will not have the CDC to hide behind.


2 posted on 06/04/2021 6:54:32 AM PDT by corkoman
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The vaccine industry is pure evil

The communist Democrats corruption nertwok , otherwise known as CDC , is the Gestapo of the completely evil satanic vaccine industry

http://vaxtruth.org/


3 posted on 06/04/2021 6:54:45 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (Arizona !!!! Now the TRUMP TRAIN is getting back on TRACK ! TRUTH! FREEDOM ! LIBERTY! )
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Truthoverpower wrote: “The vaccine industry is pure evil”

That is pure BS! The vaccine industry has saved millions of lives. There’s no reason to spread misinformation such as this.


4 posted on 06/04/2021 6:57:24 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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Agree- while there is something unseemly going on with the current vaccination demands, overall its been a life saver in many ways.


5 posted on 06/04/2021 7:02:19 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: corkoman; George from New England; cll; DarthFuzball; Tennessee Nana; Fai Mao; CodeToad; ...
The courts will rule that CDC has no authority to regulate commerce. This will ensure that for future Chinese-sponsored pandemics the politicians will not have the CDC to hide behind.

A problem with court decisions is "time" and Cruse Lines, deeply in debt, don't have time on their side.

(Neither do some of us older cruisers.)-Tom

6 posted on 06/04/2021 7:02:50 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (.It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -Tom)
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It should be up to the cruise line. If they want to require proof of vaccination before boarding then they should be able to do so.


7 posted on 06/04/2021 7:05:12 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DugwayDuke

“That is pure BS! The vaccine industry has saved millions of lives. There’s no reason to spread misinformation such as this.”

Not the covid vaccine industry. It is a criminal enterprise.


8 posted on 06/04/2021 7:12:53 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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It should be up to the cruise line. If they want to require proof of vaccination before boarding then they should be able to do so.”

They are not doctors and have no right to demand medical procedures or drugs. Can they demand you amputate your penis??


9 posted on 06/04/2021 7:13:35 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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They are not doctors and have no right to demand medical procedures or drugs.

They are in business and would like to remain in business. If they want to take precautions and require vaccinations before boarding then there is no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to do so.

Can they demand you amputate your penis???

Can you think of a more idiotic question than that?

10 posted on 06/04/2021 7:42:07 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: CodeToad

CodeToad wrote: “Not the covid vaccine industry. It is a criminal enterprise.”

The limitations on liability do not extend to criminal cases. File charges and prove it.


11 posted on 06/04/2021 7:44:55 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: CodeToad

CodeToad wrote: “They are not doctors and have no right to demand medical procedures or drugs. Can they demand you amputate your penis??”

Absurd comparisons such as this only demonstrate one’s foolishness.


12 posted on 06/04/2021 7:46:51 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

“File charges and prove it.”

Non sequitur since I am not a prosecutor, but you know that and made a childish challenge that cannot be met. Typical for a liberal.


13 posted on 06/04/2021 7:47:54 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: DoodleDawg

“They are in business and would like to remain in business.”

So? Doesn’t give them any special rights, but you know that. You’re just making excuses.

Me: “Can they demand you amputate your penis???”
You: “Can you think of a more idiotic question than that?”

You claim a company can make any medical requirement that they want, so it is not a dumb question. You just don’t want to answer the question.

So, go ahead and answer can they mandate cutadikoffame?


14 posted on 06/04/2021 7:50:22 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: DoodleDawg

“They are in business and would like to remain in business.”

So? Doesn’t give them any special rights, but you know that. You’re just making excuses.

Me: “Can they demand you amputate your penis???”
You: “Can you think of a more idiotic question than that?”

You claim a company can make any medical requirement that they want, so it is not a dumb question. You just don’t want to answer the question.

So, go ahead and answer can they mandate cutadikoffame?


15 posted on 06/04/2021 7:50:22 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: CodeToad
So? Doesn’t give them any special rights, but you know that. You’re just making excuses.

They aren't trying to get any special rights. There is nothing illegal about them requiring a vaccine from a customer in order to board. It violates no law. Don't want to comply with their requirement? That's your right as well. Nobody is forcing you buy their ticket.

You claim a company can make any medical requirement that they want, so it is not a dumb question.

Just an idiotic one. By what passes for logic in your world your local school system could force you to castrate your children in order to attend public school. Schools can require vaccines but not castration. Same with cruise lines. Any rational person would realize that.

16 posted on 06/04/2021 8:01:11 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

You still have not answered the question. Let’s stay on that topic until you do.

Can a company demand that you have a surgical procedure to remove your penis in order to travel on their cruise ships since you claim that can demand that you take an experimental drug to do so?

You obviously have no legal or logical argument here since you refuse to answer that question, but let’s stay on that topic until you do.


17 posted on 06/04/2021 8:03:53 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: DugwayDuke

T he vaccine industry was not always corrupt until they jumped in the sack with politics.


18 posted on 06/04/2021 8:09:01 AM PDT by dforest (huh?)
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To: CodeToad
You still have not answered the question. Let’s stay on that topic until you do.

I did. Last paragraph of my previous post: " By what passes for logic in your world your local school system could force you to castrate your children in order to attend public school. Schools can require vaccines but not castration. Same with cruise lines. Any rational person would realize that."

Like I said, any rational person would realize that. Sorry that you don't.

19 posted on 06/04/2021 8:25:05 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

So, you think a business can mandate one medical treatment but not another, based on what exactly?


20 posted on 06/04/2021 8:35:10 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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