Epic vs Apple: what we learnt from the trial that could change the iPhone

Financial Times ^ | May 25, 2021 | Patrick McGee, Reuters

[SunkenCiv]

Rodelli, who works for the investment research firm CFRA, put the chances at 55 per cent in Epic's favour. Apple, he said, had lost credibility by pleading ignorance on key questions, while Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers appeared to be more interested in present-day business facts than older legal precedents -- a plus for Epic, which has conceded its case lies on the "frontiers" of antitrust theory...

Amit Daryanani, Evercore ISI -- If Epic can convince the court that Apple devices are a singular market unto themselves, it would likely carry the day. We think this is relatively unlikely.

..."Bornstein conducted the best adverse witness examination since Daniel Kaffee grilled Colonel Jessup in A Few Good Men," Rodelli said. "Is it really believable that they don't have a good sense of what the profits are? That may have impacted Apple's credibility with the court." Cook also got a grilling from Gonzalez Rogers, notably over why Apple cut its 30 per cent commission to 15 per cent last year for some types of purchases for some types of apps, after Epic launched its suit.

[itsahoot]

That would be called "freedom".

You have a rather disjointed view of freedom my friend. If Apple opens up the ability for someone to side load software, then soon everyone will be able to side load software that you really don't want. Freedom is you being able to buy any phone you want and use it any way you can, in your case maybe you should just buy android phones. We Apple user's largely use their products because we are the customer not the product.(or at least we think we are)

Ever wonder why you can buy a 75 inch 4 k TV for 6 0r 7 hundred dollars. Or maybe a 32 inch 4k for $149.00? You can actually buy a ROKU TV for less than a stand alone ROKU box.

[The MAGA-Deplorian]

Apple, the Corvette of phones It keeps getting faster, but the body stays the same.

[fireman15]

I knew you wouldn't let the team down.

[1Old Pro]

The big tech companies are monopolies and thus are abusive.

[Swordmaker]

By the way, thanks for the ping to this thread and article.

[Starcitizen]

Yeah, let Apple start banning Epic Unreal Engine-based games and Unity3D engine-based games like they threaten (they also don’t like Unity Ads) as they don’t get that 30% cut

Watch games for iOS dry up. Watch Apple iOS sales plummet. Games are 72% of all mobile revenue is generated across all stores. And 84% of mobile games are developed in Unity3D or Unreal.

Developers tend to develop once and publish to many platforms.
They will not rewrite games from scratch using Apple’s extremely crappy swift language. (Great for apps, absolutely terrible for games)

[martin_fierro]

The black chick in the gold polka-dot dress is the only one there with any rhythm.

[generally]

Apple also makes money from the fees it charges developers. $100/year for iOS, $100/year for MacOS. Plus you have to buy the Mac and the iPhone. Not a puny investment for a small developer.

[fireman15]

The black chick in the gold polka-dot dress is the only one there with any rhythm.

It used to be that if you didn't have any rhythm that you tried to avoid making a spectacle of yourself... but not these days.

[fireman15]

By the way, thanks for the ping to this thread and article.

After all the trouble that have I given you over the years... I owe you big time. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and being such a valuable asset to the community.

[Darnright]

>Ever wonder why you can buy a 75 inch 4 k TV for 6 0r 7 hundred dollars. Or maybe a 32 inch 4k for $149.00? You can actually buy a ROKU TV for less than a stand alone ROKU box.<

Look at Samsung, which now forces Google and Alexa down the throats of potential buyers. I’ll be sad when my current “elderly” Samsung TV dies. That saying, no more Samsung’s for me.