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We Bet F-150 Lightning's Range Is under 100 Miles when Towing at the Max
Car and Driver ^ | 05/19/2021 | Dave VanderWerp

Posted on 05/21/2021 11:16:37 AM PDT by thegagline

Range typically occupies an outsized chunk of the conversation on any new EV. But, in the case of the F-150 Lightning, which has the bestselling pickup's usual healthy scoop of towing and hauling capabilities, things get more complicated.

Ford is claiming that the range figures for its electric pickup will come in at 230 miles and 300 miles, depending on whether the standard-range (which we estimate can hold 115.0 kWh) or extended-range battery pack (150.0 kWh, same caveat) is beneath the bed. Those are EPA predictions, specifically EPA combined figures, in lightly loaded conditions. *** Although the Lightning is aided by the aerodynamic effects of its flat underbody, when running at real highway speeds there's no tricking the air molecules, and a bluff truck is going to suffer. In our highway range testing, which we conduct at a steady 75 mph, we typically see a range number that's about 20 percent below the EPA figure. Using that same bogey, which is probably generous in the case of a full-size pickup, would put the Lightning in the 180-to-240-mile zone for what you might achieve on a road trip.

In a recent towing test with another EV, lugging a 3859-pound boat at 70 mph chopped its range in half compared to our lightly loaded highway range test that we conduct at 75 mph. Applying these results to the F-150 means that towing a modest trailer would put the highway range at roughly 115 to 150 miles, depending on the pack. Towing anywhere near the 10,000-pound maximum rating on XLT and Lariat models (with the maximum trailer tow package and extended-range battery) at highway speeds, we believe you'd be hard pressed to exceed double-digit miles. We'd take that bet, in fact. ***

(Excerpt) Read more at autos.yahoo.com ...


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To: Spktyr

Biden, AOC and Bernie disagree with you. The end of gas and diesel is neigh.


101 posted on 05/21/2021 5:19:50 PM PDT by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: thegagline

Electric vehicles are all hype.


102 posted on 05/21/2021 5:22:05 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: MercyFlush

I’m kinda intrigued by the commercials for the F-150 hybrid. Gas powered, hybrid drive system - OK fine whatever...

Did someone say “generator”? On a gas powered truck?

Now that’s kinda interesting. Doesn’t mean I’m gonna buy one though.


103 posted on 05/21/2021 5:40:46 PM PDT by OKSooner ("The virus is not the reason for the vaccine. The vaccine is the reason for the virus." )
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To: thegagline; All

44,500 orders in 48hrs per Jim Farley this aftn...


104 posted on 05/21/2021 6:02:21 PM PDT by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Songs of Angry Men!")
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To: thegagline

Why electric when a plug in Hybrids can do that & more & never worry about range since it utilizes an engine when needed?


105 posted on 05/21/2021 6:42:53 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign! )
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To: ctdonath2

Didn’t know. Thanks for the tip


106 posted on 05/21/2021 7:19:33 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: roadcat
"The F-150 truck is a loser when it comes to hauling on a mildly hot day. Same is true on a cold day when you run the heater."

Which the article should mention.

107 posted on 05/21/2021 8:06:02 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: thegagline

Gosh. I’m just super impressed. NOT!

That range would not even make it to the lake and back. With my 6,000 pound Airstream, forgetaboutit.

These things, as with all EVs I have seen really amount to no more than golf carts on steroids where the roaming area is a city or county instead of a retirement community.

We are going to be forced to have them like it or not and if we don’t want on they are going to dry up the fuel for our IC vehicles.

The convenient and practical range is about 100 miles in radius and at that you would be on the edge of your seat hoping to get home. There simply does not appear to be any comparison with an IC vehicle.

I can’t make travel to the two nearest cities 100 and 150 miles away practically work out to less than a two day trip. These are easily done in a day now. Both locations are at the edge and beyond of range for a round trip.

With charging stations aplenty there will still be problems. Consider the number of fast charging hours required if EV’s are all there are. I doubt there are enough places of power on the grid for all that.

EV’s are just as stupid an idea for distance travel now as they were a hundred years ago and there is no holy grail of power storage coming to save the situation. Neither will hopium work.


108 posted on 05/21/2021 8:53:45 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

You just have to plan your route and stops. You can always eat and take a nap while you wait to charge. /s


109 posted on 05/21/2021 8:55:49 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: thegagline

do it in a northern state in the dead of winter...


110 posted on 05/21/2021 9:22:27 PM PDT by stylin19a (Golf is a game invented by the same people who think music comes out of a bagpipe.)
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To: Mr. Rabbit
For a working truck, a hybrid makes a lot more sense. No range issues, and you happen to have a handy built-in generator.

All electric work trucks are nothing but feel-good liberal lunacy. Something like this couldn't even be used by your average yard crew for a day.

Diesel electrics actually make sense. It's a known, proven system. Of course, it can't actually be used because it has evil diesel engines.

111 posted on 05/22/2021 6:00:23 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Peter W. Kessler
Turn the pickup truck into a locomotive.

I've been saying this for years.

112 posted on 05/22/2021 6:04:54 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Sequoyah101

I have family who used to live in South Carolina and when I went to visit I would drive by myself straight through — a little over 800 miles, 14 hours. That trip would be lots of fun in a EV.

From reading articles here the last couple of weeks, I have learned that the estimated range is on a flat road. Any climbing of hills shaves off range. So does using heat, AC, headlights. Since I never considered an EV, I hadn’t thought of obvious issues such as these. EV — no sale.


113 posted on 05/22/2021 7:44:04 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: thegagline

What would be the range if you left the 2,000 lb battery in the garage?


114 posted on 05/22/2021 8:39:34 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (/)
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To: thegagline

Doesn’t matter if it only goes 50 miles. We taxpayers will still pay full rate to subsidize them.


115 posted on 05/22/2021 8:43:48 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: Seruzawa

Think of what kind of Cluster Finork it will be when a battery powered car carrying ferry runs out of juice in the middle of a trip from Seattle to Bremerton.

These people running the country are just podunk stupid.


116 posted on 05/22/2021 8:43:50 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (/)
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To: Responsibility2nd

It will sure be fun when they run out of juice on the boat ramp.


117 posted on 05/22/2021 8:45:15 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: cuban leaf

The fuel economy, or better stated, the carbon footprint for a V-6 to push a vehicle with a much heavier load because of the battery weight, and the weight of the electric motors on each wheel, will negate the savings of CO-2.


118 posted on 05/22/2021 8:46:15 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (/)
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To: Organic Panic

LOL. I am imagining it. You’re in an all electric truck. Soon to be in 25 feet of water. Let’s see now, what happens when water and electricity meet?

ZOT!


119 posted on 05/22/2021 9:02:51 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It’s my government that I hate.)
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To: taildragger

Why bother? Nobody’s buying American full size sedans any more aside from the Charger/300, and that’s a unibody. Ford already has the best selling police car in the country, the Explorer. Fleets are far more interested in those.

For non-fleet purchases, people that used to buy full size mainstream sedans new either moved to SUVs/CUVs or have actually died/aged out of driving.


120 posted on 05/23/2021 3:49:09 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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