Posted on 05/17/2021 10:18:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Jacque Trevini loves her vintage Porsche and says it gets lots of looks when she's driving down the road. "Well, it's a 1963 Porsche 356. And it's obviously red," she jokingly told 3 On Your Side. "People always wave or give a thumbs up when I’m driving. Little kids love it."
But the car's Arizona registration has become a big problem. That's because when Jacque and her husband tried to re-register it recently, employees at the MVD office said, "No." And the reason, was jaw dropping. "We took the paperwork, and they looked at us and said that it doesn't exist anymore."
What? Jacque wonders how her Porsche, valued at more than $85,000, could not exist. "Well, they're telling us that the car we have owned for 20 years, we're supposed to park it somewhere and never drive it again because they say it's not here," she said.
To prove the car does exist, Jacque and her husband returned home and actually drove the Porsche back to the MVD office so employees there could physically see it. "The man came out, looked at the car and came back in and said, you can't drive it. Do not drive this car because it's registered in Washington."
Washington? The couple says they've never lived there. But Jacque says MVD doesn't want to hear it. "And they say, 'no, no.' It's as if we don't know what we're talking about but someone sitting behind a desk does."
After weeks of arguing with MVD, Jacque contacted 3 On Your Side. "Well, I've seen you solve problems before and I wasn't sure you'd want my problem."
3 On Your Side asked Arizona MVD to investigate and they did. They discovered the 6 digit VIN number found on the Porsche had been re-registered to a 1933 Ford with the exact same VIN up in Washington, essentially cancelling out the Porsche's title and registration.
An MVD spokesman tells 3 On Your Side, "... our system flagged the title as cancelled, which is a security feature designed to prevent fraud. We have removed the cancellation and the record should now allow the vehicle in Arizona to be renewed."
3 On Your Side has discovered that it's not unusual for vintage cars made in different countries to have similar if not identical vehicle identification numbers, particularly since there are only six digits.
Regardless, after 3 On Your Side's involvement, Jacque's car is now registered with the State of Arizona and MVD says she shouldn't have this problem again.
A big thanks to Arizona MVD. They jumped on this issue as soon as a I brought this to their attention and they quickly resolved it.
This viewer says she is looking forward to getting back on the road.
Glorified VW bug. /sarc
I had a motorcycle that couldn’t be registered because the dealer had reported it stolen (even though they sold it to me). They were lightning quick to give me a refund however...probably some kind of insurance fraud going on.
They discovered the 6 digit VIN number found on the Porsche had been re-registered to a 1933 Ford with the exact same VIN up in Washington, essentially cancelling out the Porsche’s title and registration.
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Interesting that the states share their registration info.
Just what else do they share?
—”They discovered the 6 digit VIN number found on the Porsche”
By definition, a VIN is a UNIQUE 17 digit number that came into use about 1980.
Several months after I purchased a new motorcycle and after I received the pink slip, the dealer called me to tell me there had been a mistake made on the transfer.
The engine number on my bike was copied incorrectly, swapping the last two digits. This was discovered when the dealer attempted to sell and register a different bike which had the engine number recorded as mine.
The dealer stopped by, collected the erroneous pink slip, and submitted the mess to the DMV to correct.
Now, more than a year later, I have sold the bike and never received a corrected pink slip. Somehow I don't think I've heard the last of this.
Johnny Cash - One Piece At A Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18cW_yHo3PY
Wondering why any state DMV wouldn’t know this situation was a possibility? They are the ones who are supposed to be knowledgeable on this sort of situation.
Not necessarily that she lost registration and title. Just everything got mucked up. Insurance would have still been valid, though the trace through would have been a challenge. New software has a hard time with 100 year old paperwork practices.
Based on what I’ve seen from insurance companies, they would deny the claim since she was not registered. Maybe she could fight it in court.
I knew someone who lost their registration because of a DVM error, and they got a letter from their insurance company that their policy was void, because the car wasn’t registered.
Up until the renewal got denied she still had the paperwork to show it was. Could have gotten complicated, but in the long run she would have won out.
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