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Cave Creek Woman Says MVD Believes Her $85,000 Vintage Porsche "Doesn't Exist"
azfamily ^ | MAY 10, 2021 | Gary Harper

Posted on 05/17/2021 10:18:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Jacque Trevini loves her vintage Porsche and says it gets lots of looks when she's driving down the road. "Well, it's a 1963 Porsche 356. And it's obviously red," she jokingly told 3 On Your Side. "People always wave or give a thumbs up when I’m driving. Little kids love it."

But the car's Arizona registration has become a big problem. That's because when Jacque and her husband tried to re-register it recently, employees at the MVD office said, "No." And the reason, was jaw dropping. "We took the paperwork, and they looked at us and said that it doesn't exist anymore."

What? Jacque wonders how her Porsche, valued at more than $85,000, could not exist. "Well, they're telling us that the car we have owned for 20 years, we're supposed to park it somewhere and never drive it again because they say it's not here," she said.

To prove the car does exist, Jacque and her husband returned home and actually drove the Porsche back to the MVD office so employees there could physically see it. "The man came out, looked at the car and came back in and said, you can't drive it. Do not drive this car because it's registered in Washington."

Washington? The couple says they've never lived there. But Jacque says MVD doesn't want to hear it. "And they say, 'no, no.' It's as if we don't know what we're talking about but someone sitting behind a desk does."

After weeks of arguing with MVD, Jacque contacted 3 On Your Side. "Well, I've seen you solve problems before and I wasn't sure you'd want my problem."

3 On Your Side asked Arizona MVD to investigate and they did. They discovered the 6 digit VIN number found on the Porsche had been re-registered to a 1933 Ford with the exact same VIN up in Washington, essentially cancelling out the Porsche's title and registration.

An MVD spokesman tells 3 On Your Side, "... our system flagged the title as cancelled, which is a security feature designed to prevent fraud. We have removed the cancellation and the record should now allow the vehicle in Arizona to be renewed."

3 On Your Side has discovered that it's not unusual for vintage cars made in different countries to have similar if not identical vehicle identification numbers, particularly since there are only six digits.

Regardless, after 3 On Your Side's involvement, Jacque's car is now registered with the State of Arizona and MVD says she shouldn't have this problem again.

A big thanks to Arizona MVD. They jumped on this issue as soon as a I brought this to their attention and they quickly resolved it.

This viewer says she is looking forward to getting back on the road.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Hobbies; Local News
KEYWORDS: arizona; automotive; cars; dmv
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1 posted on 05/17/2021 10:18:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
So the second her registration was canceled, without her knowledge, she lost registration and title?

So, from that point on, even though she paid for insurance, it was no longer valid. If she was in an accident, she wouldn't have been covered, because her insurance would no longer have been valid?

2 posted on 05/17/2021 10:20:34 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

That’s bureaucracy for you.


3 posted on 05/17/2021 10:21:23 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters. )
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To: nickcarraway

He sold his trike last year but kept the vanity tag and insurance on it.

The MVD then “gave” the tag to some dude with a truck somewhere.

We went through hell with them, not being able to actually go IN the building but they eventually took the truck guy’s tag from him and gave it back.

/long live REAPER


4 posted on 05/17/2021 10:27:01 PM PDT by Salamander (Salamander has barbaric tendencies.../Gundog)
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To: nickcarraway
A big thanks to Arizona MVD. They jumped on this issue as soon as a I brought this to their attention and they quickly resolved it.

No, they didn't.

Your attempt to suck up to your government bully betters is noted but your story says it is a lie.

Like all government bullies they did nothing until it threatened their enormous butts and even more enormous paychecks.

5 posted on 05/17/2021 10:28:41 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (May their path be strewn with Legos, may they step on them with bare feet until they repent. )
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To: Jewbacca

Ping


6 posted on 05/18/2021 12:08:13 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: nickcarraway

Jealous...


7 posted on 05/18/2021 12:34:16 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: nickcarraway
A big thanks to Arizona MVD. They jumped on this issue as soon as a I brought this to their attention and they quickly resolved it.

They sure didn’t jump on it when the couple tried. It was only the bad publicity that got them somewhere, not a recognition that they were wrong.

The MVD is getting too much credit.

8 posted on 05/18/2021 12:48:07 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.... )
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To: TBP

“Buttle”


9 posted on 05/18/2021 3:15:42 AM PDT by CTyank
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To: CTyank

These are the people who would run government health care.


10 posted on 05/18/2021 3:39:08 AM PDT by F450-V10 (`)
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To: nickcarraway

It doesn’t effect your insurance.


11 posted on 05/18/2021 3:43:54 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: nickcarraway

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12 posted on 05/18/2021 3:46:26 AM PDT by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' Grandma - multi issue voter)
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To: nickcarraway

Must have been some un-knowledgeable DMV employee.

Before VIN’s became standard it was very possible to have the same number on more then one car from different makers.

I am surprised it took more then 5 seconds to fix.


13 posted on 05/18/2021 4:17:10 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: nickcarraway
If they assigned the bureaucrat's employee ID number and paychecks to another person, that same bureaucrat would immediately become knowledgeable, capable, and fix the problem in 15 minutes.

Some states have outsourced their motor vehicle agencies to contractor who try hard enough at least to win the contract again the next time it goes out for bid.

14 posted on 05/18/2021 4:24:47 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: T.B. Yoits

We fixed the glitch....


15 posted on 05/18/2021 4:47:50 AM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: CTyank

Great movie.


16 posted on 05/18/2021 5:15:43 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: nickcarraway

Crap like this happens. I bought a German car in Colorado back in the 70’s, the car was from California. A year or so later I got a letter from an impound yard in California that they had my car. I looked at it was still in the driveway.

I called the police and they dropped by, looked at the letter, looked at my VIN, suggested I not worry about it, and left.


17 posted on 05/18/2021 5:55:26 AM PDT by tje
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To: nickcarraway

I love classic Porsche’s. Gorgeous 356. I own an 86 944 turbo but aspire to own a 86-89 911 turbo (yeah, I know, good luck). My friend has a black manual 928 s4 (rare in manual). Best cars on the face of the earth. That’s why they’ve won the 24 hours of le mans more than any other marque and hold track records basically where ever they want to.


18 posted on 05/18/2021 6:12:09 AM PDT by lwd
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To: nickcarraway

Some of it makes sense with VINs that are unique after a certain date but seriously, cancelling based on a 6 digit number is stupid. This was likely done when a programmer was given certain business rules for their program but no one who wrote the rules knew about this scenario or did not mention it in the business requirements.

Once it was brought to MVD’s attention, someone should have been able to fix it but as typical, the “that’s not my job” mentality takes over.


19 posted on 05/18/2021 6:12:44 AM PDT by gunnut
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To: nickcarraway

Ca DMV would have never made any effort at all to help fix it. Once they make a decision like this about a car it has been rendered useless scrap.


20 posted on 05/18/2021 6:15:06 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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