Educate me re SARS-Cov vaccines

FreeRepublic ^ | 16 May 2021 | NonValueAdded

[NonValueAdded]

I post this in the forlorn hope that I can make an informed decision regarding the Covid vaccine choices available to me. Like many on this forum, I planned to hold out for the J&J vaccine until the world came clotting down. After reading the following article snippet, I have severe doubts about getting ANY vaccine until I understand just what the, pardon my French, phuck is going on. So I put letter references to my questions in the thread, looking for specific answers from the collected intelligence here.

When you get the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, the modified adenovirus is pulled inside your cells, where it travels to the cell nucleus, home to its DNA. The adenovirus then puts its DNA into the nucleus, the spike protein gene is read by the cell, and it’s then copied into messenger RNA, or mRNA. Your cells begin making spike proteins, which are then recognized by your immune system, causing your body to produce antibodies to the perceived threat.

Source: What to Know About Johnson & Johnson’s Single-Dose COVID-19 Vaccine

Holy GMO, Batman. You're gonna put that chit inside of yourself??? Just a cotton-picking moment, here. There's that mRNA again. Is this just a difference without distinction? Questions abound. See comment #1.

[CodeToad]

“Sounds like you’ve already made up your mind not to get it. Why bother posting?”

So, only propaganda to get the killer vaccine should be posted?

[CodeToad]

“Unless you’re over 60, you’ll probably be fine without it.”

I know 95 year olds that were fine without it.

[mrsmith]

“Therefore replication is *intrinsically* possible, given the right conditions.”

That’s why they prevent it.

I don’t understand how you can be so confused about this.

[Jane Long]

Excellent recap of CV genome sequencing events and timeline.

The ties/roads always lead back to the same, evil players ($$$).

Not to mention, that if the CCP had given us the full genome, rather than partial, it would’ve been obvious it was manipulated.

Gotta keep that smoking gun protected.

[grey_whiskers]

I'm not confused.

There are two ways people use the word impossible.

1) Intrinsically impossible, like in the movie Team America: World Police, where the guy asks, "Have you ever seen a man eat his own head?"

2) Practically impossible, "There's no WAY the Minnesota Twins are going to win the World Series this year." (But they did in 1991 when they were given 1000-to-1 odds against it at the beginning of the season.)

It is not intrinsically impossible for replication to occur in a vaccine: all you have to do is screw up the processing of some of the ingredients going into it.

[arthurus]

Listen to Dr. Fauci. He knows best what you need. But don't listen too long or you will tie yourself in knots following the contradictions. Bill Gates is pushing those vaccines hard and his money is now the supporter for WHO and that makes me suspicious because his oft reiterated obsession is with population reduction.
The producers of these genetic engineering inoculations do not know what long or even medium term effects there will be. I consider them more dangerous than a healthy Ancient being exposed to the CCP flu. You would surely not be relying only on the D because you yourself say you are in documented very good health. That is your firewall. We have a lot of people with severe side effects including demise. It is a tiny ratio but even the doctors doing the counting say only 1-10% of the victims are reported and counted.

These injections are of a type never used on humans before, at least not openly, and previous attempts to develop such a "vaccine" were all failures when the animal subjects developed very bad reactions. If you crave to join the vast herd of guinea pigs for an experiment you have no need of then I suppose that is a noble thing. Normally such experimental subjects are paid money for their sacrifice but there is not enough money to pay all the testees. The 103 year old gentleman in my church is not interested in experimental medications or in masks. I expect he will see his 104th, at least.
The rapid reduction in cases is due to a recalibration of the tests that were registering very high false positives during the recent "surge," The tests are much more accurate now and the cause of death on certificates is not automatically COVID if the expired one had a heart attack and tested positive with no actual symptoms.

[HandyDandy]

I think novavax is made by sinovac.

[GOP_Party_Animal]

I know 65 year-olds that weren’t.

[FreedomForce]

It’s probably not just correlation.

https://hospitalhealthcare.com/covid-19/calcifediol-vitamin-d-appears-to-improve-outcomes-in-covid-19/

[Treeless Branch]

Good concise summary. LoL.

[Treeless Branch]

Great post.

[FreedomForce]

Hmmm. Questions have been raised about the study cited in my previous post, so I’m not sure if that’s valid or not.

I ran across another study that says treating moderate and severe COVID patients with high dose Vitamin D (200,000 IU) doesn’t help.

Maybe Vitamin D status and COVID outcomes are just correlational, but I still doubt that.

[FreedomForce]

On the other hand, maybe VItamin D supplementation can help with some COVID cases. Small study but randomized placebo controlled.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33184146/#page7

[Trillian]

I weigh about 110 and my doctor has me on 5,000 IU.

[ThanhPhero]

There ae lots of obese Vietnamese now in the big cities and some in the small towns. It is a matter of the availability of protein. People are eating far more meat now than twenty years ago. When I first went back there the only fat people were bureaucrats and government officials and I met more than a couple of people who were a bit retarded due to lifelong malnutrition. Over the years and my returns I could see the people filling out. Of course I noticed mostly the ladies. That rail thin no-shape figure was looking like American physiques after ten years or so. The youngsters are taller and getting even taller. In 2003 I was a head tabofe the crowds on the street. Now I don't stand out by my height and I meet young men who are over 6 feet. The people in the streets in Sài Gòn and Hà Nội look more like Americans with corpulence becoming more and more common. The áo dàis that are so bewitching on slim, unfortunately underfed, lasses don't look so ethereal on heavy girls.
One young woman in 2003 whom I thought of as being heavy looks now in the old pictures to have been quite thin. She is fat and prosperous now, the local capitalist in her town. Perspective has changed with prosperity. The street children before about 20đ5 were throwaway kids that two centuries ago would have been left in the forest as extra, often handicapped, mouths when there was not enough food for the other children. On the streets, at least, some of them survived, even thrived.

[goodnesswins]

I take 10,000 a day...but the 90,000 would be for when illness strikes (for a 100 pounder)

[DugwayDuke]

FreedomForce wrote: “On the other hand, maybe VItamin D supplementation can help with some COVID cases. Small study but randomized placebo controlled.”

Perhaps but Vitamin D shouldn’t be considered as effective as a vaccine. Far too many are simply looking for excuses to avoid the vaccines. Vitamin D is one of their favorites.

[FreedomForce]

I agree with you there. People shouldn’t avoid the vaccine.