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WORLDOMETER COVID-19 Deaths in USA 5/11/2021: 743 with 34,904 new cases
Worldometer ^ | May 11, 2021

Posted on 05/11/2021 8:41:07 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican


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KEYWORDS: covid19
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To: USAF80

Oh dear!
Do you really believe that?
I am old enough, that I heard from my grandma. Nobody had any vaccines then, people just dropped dead, including my two grand uncles. And so did the village people in her place, particularly the ones who avoided the draft. Granma took it sort of like God punishment for doing that.
It was not Spanish Flu, but the King of Spain almost died of it, no vaccination either.
Oh man, those conspiracies?! Can you ever learn?


21 posted on 05/12/2021 5:16:16 AM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Again, the numbers for flu for previous years were estimates not based on testing. In 2020, we know what happened. Every respiratory-involved death was deemed "COVID". In 2019, my father passed away from a respiratory ailment that was likely the flu or the common cold. He had many co-morbidities as he was 87 years old. I have no doubt that in 2020, his cause of death would have been deemed "COVID". In 2019, I doubt he even made it into the 34 thousand estimated flu deaths.

And anyway, my point isn't that there weren't a lot of deaths from COVID. It's that the peaks mirror flu season to a "t".
22 posted on 05/12/2021 5:54:58 AM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: AZJeep
Do you really believe that?

I don't know about the supposed meningitis vaccine as the genesis of the Spanish Flu. But I can tell you that they did develop a vaccine against Spanish Flu in 1918 and it basically did nothing at all to halt the spread of the virus. Go look it up.
23 posted on 05/12/2021 5:57:37 AM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: Antoninus

Looking up, there was no flu vaccine really developed until 1938. They were trying, created something, did not worked, it was not used.
Nobody got it!
Blaming the dead’s for faulty vaccine is total Bull.
People died of the flu, not of the vaccine!
Why?
Because nobody got any vaccine to speak about!
There were no vaccines to speak about in 1918! Only Smallpox, cholera, plague, rabies.
But the horrendous toll of the flu spurred the vaccination efforts. Sort of like last year. It only took them 20 years then.
They were using masks then though! With similar results.


24 posted on 05/12/2021 6:13:52 AM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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Enjoy this article from 2018, before everything about this topic became hyper-politicized....
"As with the gauze masks, Hassler could claim that with the Leary vaccine the city had the most advanced science available to protect its population. "The serum offers the only remedy," he asserted, "and we are taking advantage of it."[47] Local politicians as well as medical authorities, unsure of the pathology of influenza, grasped at straws during the fall and winter of 1918 and 1919 and they embraced almost any measure that instilled hope of curbing death rates. Wisely, the media in San Francisco published what seemed to be scientific evidence for the vaccine straight from Dr. Leary that substantiated it as a legitimate public health tool: "In treatment (of influenza) it is most valuable in large doses (up to two cubic centimeters) in the beginning of the disease."[48] Later studies proved the Leary vaccine to be useless in curing influenza, but Rolph and Hassler capitalized on the gap in scientific knowledge during the period to further their efforts to enhance the city's reputation....
Taken from: Medical Manipulation: Public Health as a Political Tool in the 1918-19 Influenza Epidemic in San Francisco
25 posted on 05/12/2021 6:29:31 AM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: Antoninus

Some snake oil salesman in San Francisco.
Small city then. There were always those around, and they still are. Pushing some imaginary treatments right now.
Not a global vaccination efforts. 99.999% people in the world were not vaccinated to any degree, being it by snake oil or not, so this had no effects in the big picture.
Yes, people tried all kind of stuff, it was a desperate time. Most of the treatments were not very helpful, but mostly harmless.
Anyway - this was purportedly serum, not vaccine. That’s a big difference. The first somewhat useful vaccine for flu came in 1938, 20 years later.

I am just flabbergasted by this guy, who blames Spanish Flu deaths on “faulty vaccine” when there was none available. Just stunning!


26 posted on 05/12/2021 8:45:37 AM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: AZJeep
I am just flabbergasted by this guy, who blames Spanish Flu deaths on “faulty vaccine” when there was none available. Just stunning!

I don't know whether his claim is true or not.

I do know that your claim that "there was no vaccine available during Spanish Flu" is false. There was a vaccine available. That's documented. It just didn't work at all.
27 posted on 05/12/2021 10:58:59 AM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: AZJeep

Read the studies. It was a conspiracy


28 posted on 05/12/2021 3:09:22 PM PDT by USAF80
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