Posted on 05/03/2021 11:31:34 AM PDT by Cathi
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has just released brand-new data on the percentage of people who have become infected with COVID-19 despite being fully vaccinated.
In those totals, released on Friday, April 30, more than 95 million Americans were fully vaccinated as of Monday, April 26. Of those nearly 100 million fully vaccinated people, only 9,245 became infected with so-called vaccine breakthrough cases. That's an efficacy rate of 99.999.
A total of 5,827 (63 percent) of the cases were women, and 4,245 (45 percent) were adults age 60 and over.
"It is important to note that reported vaccine breakthrough cases will represent an undercount," the CDC said in a statement after the newest results were released. "This surveillance system is passive and relies on voluntary reporting from state health departments which may not be complete.
"Also, not all real-world breakthrough cases will be identified because of lack of testing. This is particularly true in instances of asymptomatic or mild illness. These surveillance data are a snapshot and help identify patterns and look for signals among vaccine breakthrough cases."
The CDC said it will now be releasing data on the number of breakthrough cases on a weekly basis.
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To cut-and-paste your own quote:
Why do they keep stating on official government documents (under penalty of law, loss of medical license, loss of career, potential prison time, etc.) that it was natural causes consistent with the person’s individual medical history?
Prove it.
On a case-by-case basis.
The unreported cases are included in the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR). The Case Fatality Rate looks at how many have died against how many diagnosed cases there are. The US CFR is currently 1.8%. To get the IFR, serology studies (antibody testing) and other data is combined with the case numbers to calculate a total number of actual infections. The deaths are then divided into that to get the IFR.
So the Case Fatality Rate is 1.8%, but that misses a lot of asymptomatic or mild cases. The Infection Fatality Rate does account for those missed cases, and is 0.65%.
https://vaers.hhs.gov/docs/VAERS_Table_of_Reportable_Events_Following_Vaccination.pdf
I don't see "getting hit by a car" in there.
Well here’s two cases:
Marvin Hagler: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/boxing/2021/03/16/marvelous-marvin-haglers-death-reason-not-coronavirus-vaccine-wife/4715277001/
You have any where a medical examiner stated that the vaccine was the cause of death anywhere in the United States?
No where in these CDC guidelines does it state how many amplifications can be used while still claiming a positive test. I have recently read that up to 40 amplifications have been used on unvaccinated people to determine s a positive. After vaccination the maximum number of amplifications permitted will be 24. I have looked on the CDC website but cannot find it there. If this is true, it is surely leading to skewed numbers.
How can those “missed cases” be tabulated? By their very nature they’re never reported. If estimated, how are accurate estimates of missed cases determined?
You don’t see COVID-19 in there either. It’s not a complete list of either the vaccines nor the events nor the reporting timeframes.
VAERS code 10020100 is for a hip fracture. Do you believe a polio shot or a COVID-19 vaccine causes spontaneous hip fractures?
VAERS Code 10013183 is for dislocation of vertebra. Do you think a flu shot causes vertebrae to spontaneously dislocate?
Or is VAERS there to record adverse events that happen after vaccination regardless of what actually caused them? Since, that’s exactly what the VAERS website itself states its purpose is...
That there is no definitive test to see whether or not you've had Covid-19 is a major failure in this system.
There was a lot of talk about it early on, then nothing.
Why in the world would I take an experimental gene therapy to protect against something that is no threat to me?
You use a combination of methods to determine an approximate number of actual (versus diagnosed) cases. Serology testing for a statistically representative sample of the population is one method. Another is doing blanket testing of an entire town and comparing that with diagnosis data. Other isolated populations can also be verified en masse, like people on cruise ships or islands.
One by itself is insufficient to get a good estimate of how many cases are being missed, but when you do a lot of these, the numbers begin to coalesce. In the US, IFR estimates have varied from study to study between 0.63 - 0.67%, putting the CDC’s number of 0.65% right in the middle. We arrive at that by seeing that actual cases are around 2.7 - 2.75 times the number being diagnosed.
Lots of different studies have been done with this in the US, so there’s a lot of data on different parts of the country. The results are consistent with each other.
If covid had a kill rate like Ebola; 25-40%, I’d go with the odds and take an experimental vaccine to prevent getting it. This covid virus is nowhere near as dangerous. In fact it’s dangerous overwhelmingly just to very old folks and those with serious health issues. But so is just about everything else to those folks. My grandmother died of pneumonia after catching a cold - she was 98.
So, what is the estimated number of missed cases in the US vs the number of diagnosed cases? Exclude those cases where covid was listed as a cause of death since there’s a lot of reason to suspect that those numbers are greatly inflated - a close friend is a mortician and has confirmed that this is the case, at least where he is. In other words, number of diagnosed and recovered cases vs estimated missed cases.
“You don’t see COVID-19 in there either. It’s not a complete list of either the vaccines nor the events nor the reporting timeframes.
VAERS code 10020100 is for a hip fracture. Do you believe a polio shot or a COVID-19 vaccine causes spontaneous hip fractures?
VAERS Code 10013183 is for dislocation of vertebra. Do you think a flu shot causes vertebrae to spontaneously dislocate?”
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I don’t know; because it’s YOU asserting it.
Send a link to the entire set of VAERS codes, and which codes are applicable to which injection.
You had written earlier
“If you get a shingles vaccine today and get hit by a car tomorrow, the death is recorded - by law - in VAERS.”
Now you’re babbling about hip fractures. This is known as “changing the subject.”
You mentioned getting hit by a car. Show me the cases of VAERS reports for mRNA jabs where the death was due to being hit by a car.
Family members disputed those, IIRC.
You know, since you adapted the “IDENTIFIES AS” for Moderna “identifying as” a vaccine, let’s pick up some more of the SJW toolbox and use “This claim is disputed”.
See that’s the fun part of lying through your teeth by changing the rules, like the Clintons started and which by now has infested most of the bureaucracy and the Deep State.
All of a sudden, the people you’re talking to don’t have to acknowledge a single statement of yours, either.
Hank Aaron held the record for career home runs; not hits.
And Hagler suffered a lot of hits, but none by cars that I know of.
Try again.
Currently diagnosed cases: 33,217,627
Actual likely number of cases: 90,986,000
Likely number of missed cases: 57,768,373
The only things family members disputed were the anti-vaccine peoples’ lies about the vaccines causing their deaths. Marvin Hagler’s widow was furious about all the wild claims made by anti-vaccine websites.
Unlike you, I’ll not accuse you of being a liar. Only misinformed.
mRNA vaccines ARE NOT GENE THERAPY no matter how many kook websites you may frequent or misleading SEC filings you may quote to bolster a faulty argument.
RNA is not used in gene therapy and viral vectors are not used in RNA vaccines, which makes the comparison to gene therapy simply false.
So, estimated missed cases are nearly twice those of diagnosed ones. I suspected the number of missed cases would be astronomical, and they are - if these numbers reflect reality. I suspect they’re within the ballpark. But the confirmed case numbers assumes that the test for coronavirus is reliable. There are serious doubts about that. CDC recently advised to drop PCR test cycles from ~40 down to 27. Why was that done? To my understanding more cycles=more dubious positives.
The only thing I’ve seen about that related to breakthrough testing for vaccinated persons and I didn’t see the reasoning in that guidance.
I’ll say this though: if the number of cases is much lower, then the mortality rate is much higher. In other words, if the cases is (for example) 1/10th the number, then we’re talking about an 18% mortality rate. I don’t think that’s likely given the publicly available data and the studies done on the virus. 0.65% seems consistent across the western world.
40% of cases asymptomatic, 40% mildly symptomatic, 20% requiring some level of medical assistance, 5% requiring hospitalization, 3% ICU, 0.65% death. Overall a pretty manageable disease. If the case numbers drop, then all those percentages (except asymptomatic) go up.
The survival rate for those who catch the disease is 98.3...the overall death rate is probably 0.3 percent if you include the whole population including those who never get the disease, who never had confirmed tests as well as those who did.
How many ultimately will not even catch the disease(vaccinated or not) in their life times...I don’t think anyone can guess. If you get the disease there is an over all 1.7 percent chance you may die from it but generally younger persons with no co-morbidities will sail right thru. About another 1-5 percent of the recovered may have lingering after effects that may last some months and some experience lasting damage to some system or other of their bodies but those statistics are still fluid.
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