Posted on 05/03/2021 11:31:34 AM PDT by Cathi
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has just released brand-new data on the percentage of people who have become infected with COVID-19 despite being fully vaccinated.
In those totals, released on Friday, April 30, more than 95 million Americans were fully vaccinated as of Monday, April 26. Of those nearly 100 million fully vaccinated people, only 9,245 became infected with so-called vaccine breakthrough cases. That's an efficacy rate of 99.999.
A total of 5,827 (63 percent) of the cases were women, and 4,245 (45 percent) were adults age 60 and over.
"It is important to note that reported vaccine breakthrough cases will represent an undercount," the CDC said in a statement after the newest results were released. "This surveillance system is passive and relies on voluntary reporting from state health departments which may not be complete.
"Also, not all real-world breakthrough cases will be identified because of lack of testing. This is particularly true in instances of asymptomatic or mild illness. These surveillance data are a snapshot and help identify patterns and look for signals among vaccine breakthrough cases."
The CDC said it will now be releasing data on the number of breakthrough cases on a weekly basis.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailyvoice.com ...
I posted both the link and around a full page before that quote, so it would be quite clear I wasn't pulling a random page out of context.
Go argue with the FDA. Unless you wanna call them kooks.
I don't frequent kook websites, or rely upon them for scientific information. So yeah, looks like you're (choose one) misinformed/lying again.
And it's not "bolstering a faulty argument" either. I only called it a gene therapy because the FDA did.
My concern is the biochemistry/biophysics of the mRNA in the body, and the lack of regular protocols regarding safety, in conjunction with the past track reecord of the principal suspcts involved, regardless of what you call the injections. There may happen to be risk of the jabs inadvertently modifying the recipients' DNA; because Harvard and MIT researchers reported finding stretches of coof genetic sequences incorporated into the DNA of human patients...which shows the incorporation of viral DNA is "intrinsically possible".
Whether it happens to occur with just RNA from the spike protein present, I don't know: that'd depend on whether something in the full COVID 19 virus is doing the incorporation or (say) coinfection by another virus with reverse transcriptase.
RNA is not used in gene therapy and viral vectors are not used in RNA vaccines, which makes the comparison to gene therapy simply false.
Not my circus, not my clowns. It's the FDA, not me.
On the other hand, I thought JNJ and AstraZeneca used an adenovirus vector for delivery of their mRNA coof injections.
Are you using the neologism "these mRNA jabs identify as vaccines" (to help with the manufacturers' immunity from liability, I guess); or is there another class of true RNA vaccines you had in mind?
Well I guess that makes you, what? Anti-fascist?
Thank you for calling yourself out as Antifa. Have fun burning a major US city to the ground next time you get together with your buddies.
Counterexample: Gen George S. Patton fought Nazis. So did Bomber Harris. They burned *foreign* cities.
But she's an uneducated, non-medical professional!
/rimshot>
Arbitrarily shifting standards there -- family members' beliefs are suddenly inviolate and beyond the possibility of question, when they favor YOUR narrative. Which reminds me, have you proposed to Melinda Gates yet?
You’re gonna die to
Yep, they are going to keep shootin’ ya up until you die.
On the other hand, I thought JNJ and AstraZeneca used an adenovirus vector for delivery of their mRNA coof injections.
Correct. Sort of. The viral vector J&J and AstraZeneca vaccines are actually much closer in function to "gene therapy" than the mRNA vaccines being discussed here.
The genetic material in those vaccines is DNA, rather than messenger RNA. And, unlike the mRNA vaccines that we are actually discussing, are delivered into the cell nucleus to instruct the cell to express the antigen.
A good friend’s 3-year-old caught it in daycare. He wasn’t particularly sick outside of a fever but a couple of weeks later was covered in a rash. The pediatrician said she has seen that in a number of children. Rather spooky for any respiratory virus to me.
Can you send me any links you relied upon for the J&J and AstraA Zeneca injections?
I’ve seen people loudly insisting that incorporation of any genetic material from the jabs into the human genome was impossible, since RNA and DNA don’t mix; and another site which I’ve misplaced, but which said it gave “the scientific facts” about the injections carefully explained that their contents never entered the nucleus.
Imma have to find a good block of time to find sources I trust and do a Cartesian expansion of the key characteristics of all the players.
Cause it sounds like there are a lot of “I F’ing Love Science” types talking through their hats.
(Those who are proponents of the jabs are very good at attacking anyone opposed to these jabs as scientifically illiterate peasants; but don’t do such a good job keeping their fellow “Because SCIENCE!™” warriors in line, sometimes.)
Here are a few I’ve read:
http://globalhealthprimer.emory.edu/targets-technologies/viral-vector-vaccines.html
https://www.hhs.gov/immunization/basics/types/index.html
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/how-the-johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine-works
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/contrary-to-popular-claim-on-social-media-rna-vaccines-do-not-alter-our-dna/
Thanks,
I’ll get to them over the next couple of days.
My pleasure.
BTW. I distrust Fauci and the CDC also. And given what we, who have been paying attention to the rank partisanship and mishandling of this entire COVID debacle have good reason to question everything. No disagreement at all there.
Flat out prove your numbers you can’t because they are a lie.
Here are the real numbers peer reviewed science. Post a counter source with peer reviewed science or STFU with your lies. So tired of people running their mouths with zero data to back it up. You will be called out for it.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
You're the one who has typical East Asian problems with written English grammar, aren't you?
A dead man’s wife has access to all of his medical records, including the medical examiner’s report on his cause of death. She knows what’s in the report; you don’t. And neither do your friends at the anti-vaccine websites who SWORE it just HAD to be the vaccine that killed him.
And what of Hank Aaron? There we have the anti-vaxxer websites again swearing up and down that the vaccine killed him. But in that case, it’s the medical examiner who did the actual investigation stating - unequivocally - that his death was the result of natural causes consistent with his personal medical history and that there was no evidence of any vaccine related complications contributing to his death.
Willing to admit the anti-vaccine websites got it wrong with Hank Aaron?
And what of Hank Aaron? There we have the anti-vaxxer websites again swearing up and down that the vaccine killed him. But in that case, it’s the medical examiner who did the actual investigation stating - unequivocally - that his death was the result of natural causes consistent with his personal medical history and that there was no evidence of any vaccine related complications contributing to his death.
Now do Vince Foster's "suicide". You don't get out much, do you?
So you’re stating that you have information about Hank Aaron’s death that the medical examiner either missed or covered up?
What evidence do you have?
But everyone already knew that.
You want the shot, take the shot - what I do is none of your damned business.
Last I checked this was a free country with free speech rights - now go un-bunch your panties….
What they aren’t revealing is that the breakthrough cases are more likely to be hospitalized.
I know one person who got covid twice.
After the first round she never had antibodies. Tested for them 3 times.
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