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Missing Indonesian submarine found broken into at least 3 parts
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| https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/missing-indonesian-submarine-found-broken-least-3-parts-n1265210
Posted on 04/25/2021 10:59:24 AM PDT by BenLurkin
A missing Indonesian submarine has been found, broken into at least three parts, deep in the Bali Sea, army and navy officials said on Sunday, as the president sent condolences to relatives of the 53 crew.
Rescuers found new objects, including a life vest, that they believe belong to those aboard the 44-year old KRI Nanggala-402, which lost contact on Wednesday as it prepared to conduct a torpedo drill.
Margono said on Saturday that a sonar scan had detected a submarine-like object at 2,800 feet, beyond the Nanggala's diving range.
Indonesia had five submarines before the latest accident: two German-built Type 209s, including Nanggala and three newer South Korean vessels
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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: indonesian; submarine
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posted on
04/25/2021 10:59:24 AM PDT
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BenLurkin
To: BenLurkin
“to those aboard the 44-year old KRI Nanggala-402”
That is an old submarine. Lots of time for a stress riser to form in the pressure hull.
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posted on
04/25/2021 11:03:06 AM PDT
by
Fai Mao
(It is time, past time and almost too late.)
To: BenLurkin
What would cause this to break apart??
To: spacejunkie2001
Limpet mines...courtesy of China?
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posted on
04/25/2021 11:14:16 AM PDT
by
moovova
(Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
To: spacejunkie2001
I imagine something went bad and caused her to sink below crush depth.
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posted on
04/25/2021 11:17:26 AM PDT
by
dainbramaged
( Zulus to the Southwest - thousands of 'em.)
To: spacejunkie2001
Aargh! The skalawags that caused me Davey Jones locker to go into her watery grave me lad!
(Puffs on tobacco pipe and adjusts eye patch)
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posted on
04/25/2021 11:22:10 AM PDT
by
Extremely Extreme Extremist
(Free Republic: The Internet's 1st social media platform. Since 1996.)
To: moovova
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posted on
04/25/2021 11:24:03 AM PDT
by
ex91B10
(Just because you can doesn't mean you should. )
To: spacejunkie2001
What would cause this to break apart??
Something in the hull failed, or given that it was about to do a torpedo firing drill, something in the breech of the torpedo tube failed and admitted water into the hull. Get enough water inside a submarine- or any ship- and it starts sinking. In the case of a submarine it doesn't take much, because they're designed to be close to neutral buoyancy anyway.
Then, once it sinks deep enough, the hull (if not completely filled with water, which of course takes time) will implode violently once water pressure overcomes its strength. That implosion has been seen in other steel-hulled shipwrecks to be more than enough to break vessels into multiple pieces. Additionally, impact on the sea floor of a sinking vessel has been seen to break hulls into large pieces.
Looking up the sub's specs on good ol' wikipedia and using a cylinder-shaped surface area number derived from its length and beam, at 2800' ft depth the total amount of force trying to crush the hull (inward pressure integrated over hull surface area) is approximately 2.65 billion pounds . As strong as as a ship or submarine hull is, that kind of force can result in pretty spectacular structural failures, like a steel submarine getting crumpled so violently it ends up in multiple pieces...
One can only hope the crew didn't suffer long after the initial failure. I suppose one very dim positive note about a sub that hits crush depth and fails violently is that if anyone was still alive and conscious at that point, they were spared the experience of drowning [the implosion process would have taken less than a blink of the eye].
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posted on
04/25/2021 11:37:00 AM PDT
by
verum ago
(Some people must truly be in love, for only love can be so blind. Too cynical..?)
To: spacejunkie2001
It was a bit old, was retrofitted awhile back. Perhaps something was missed or improperly done during that process.
I think they bought it from Germany.
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posted on
04/25/2021 11:40:20 AM PDT
by
SaxxonWoods
(Any comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
To: All
thanks to all for the responses. It sure is sad
To: spacejunkie2001
My thoughts are always with those in peril on or under the sea. Being grounded deep is a terrifying experience in a sub. And that’s all I wanna say about that except, by the grace of God, I and about 120 other swabs survived.
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posted on
04/25/2021 12:32:37 PM PDT
by
PerConPat
(A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground - Mencken)
To: BenLurkin
...a sonar scan had shown the submarine at a depth of 850 m (2,800 ft), while its crush depth was presumed to be 500 m (1,600 ft).
I still suspect that many other submarines knew it was a goner, because a crush depth implosion is noisy and distinct enough to be heard on the other side of the world.
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posted on
04/25/2021 12:46:01 PM PDT
by
yefragetuwrabrumuy
("Poor kids are just as bright, just as talented, as white kids." - Joe Biden Aug 8, 2019)
To: spacejunkie2001
To: PerConPat
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posted on
04/25/2021 1:29:22 PM PDT
by
lapsus calami
(What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
To: BenLurkin
To: lapsus calami
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posted on
04/25/2021 1:45:55 PM PDT
by
PerConPat
(A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground - Mencken)
To: cva66snipe
“Thank God and General Dynamics.” Heston as the Captain.
To: mad_as_he$$
Yeap great movie. I sent reply private by mistake sorry.
To: PerConPat; lapsus calami
When they recovered the HL Hunley all eight crew members were at their stations.
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posted on
04/25/2021 1:59:17 PM PDT
by
outofsalt
(If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
To: BenLurkin
Maintenance and training.
Maintenance and training.
Or, find yourself at the bottom of the sea.
No serious design flaws in the Type 209, and none has broken into pieces before.
It appears they dove too deep.
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posted on
04/25/2021 2:03:24 PM PDT
by
Mariner
(War Criminal #18)
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