[knarf]

I'm old enough to remember the Viet Nam era.

Somewhere in the early sixties, some college students and university professors got some air and ink about their reasoning to protest US involvement in Viet Nam.

The event(s) were rapidly picked up by every "news" and entertainment outlet (look familiar ?) and broadcast to the planet that a bunch of long haired men, all wearing denim and beads flashing something called a "peace sign", with their long haired beautiful women in colorful array, supporting her man, had united around ONE THING ... US involvement in (and slowly becoming the) Viet Nam (War)

By 1967/8, LIFE magazine (and others) were informing us that there was a global movement.

It didn't matter which industrialized nation they cameo'd; the USA, Japan, Germany, Russia, India, England, etc., there were clashes with police, sit-ins, take-overs, rock concerts, and a ton of money being made off of the "counter culture", ALL because of a conflict that got blown out of proportion.

A whole lot of young men died, just in time for the establishment to keep the establishment

"They" took out the leaders, and maintained a modicum of control

. I see the same thing with the latest strain of flu ... COVID.

[PIF]

old enough to remember wwii

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Old enough to remember Buffalo Bob.

[C210N]

It's coming. Soon. And, just in a neck of time!

I.INTRODUCTIONIn the course of human events there have always been those who deny or reject human freedom, but Americans will never falter in defending the fundamental truths of human liberty proclaimed on July 4, 1776. We will—we must—always hold these truths.

The declared purpose of the President’s Advisory 1776 Commission is to “enable a rising generation to understand the history and principles of the founding of the United States in 1776 and to strive to form a more perfect Union.” This requires a restoration of American education, which can only be grounded on a history of those principles that is “accurate, honest, unifying, inspiring, and ennobling.” And a rediscovery of our shared identity rooted in our founding principles is the path to a renewed American unity and a confident American future.

[DuncanWaring]

I’m old enough to remember when Kennedys killed their women one at a time!

[dfwgator]

“Is she right? ‘Cause I know that’s the *popular* version of what went on there.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq9mzhz9IQo

[BipolarBob]

I’m old enough to remember telling Gen. Armstrong to leave the Sioux be and stay away from little Big Horn. I think. It might’ve been a dream. My memory ain’t so good. It’s like grandpa used to say “I can’t remember as good as I once did, but I can remember once as good as I ever did” or something to that effect. I never understood it but it sounded good.

[MurrietaMadman]

Who remembers Archie?

https://iowaculture.gov/history/education/educator-resources/primary-source-sets/cold-war-vietnam/operational-priority

[enumerated]

This “ Trump is the new JFK” meme is getting very tiresome.

The Kennedys and MLK were liberal Democrats seeking government solutions.

The Founders designed this Constitutional Republic to limit the power of government. True conservatives, like Presidents Reagan and Trump, sought to uphold that founding principle of limited government.

The Kennedys and MLK were never on board with that limited government idea and had they lived, they would have gone down the same road to Hell that Teddy Kennedy went down - socialism “for our own good”.

Tyranny of the majority is what all leftists resort to. Abusing the power of government to make people do things “for their own good”. The green new deal would have been right up JFK’s alley - and it’s silly to deny it.

I don’t know which of the many theories of why JFK was assassinated to believe - but I doubt it was because he tried to drain the swamp.

[ChessExpert]

Sad to say, it might depend on who is teaching history. A Marxist history teacher may be worse than none at all.

Dennis Prager made an aside that the left ruins everything that it touches. He did not explain. I think I know the reason.

Marxism teaches that there is “a higher morality” than telling the truth. It’s “advancing the cause.” The left, it all it’s various forms, has adopted the view that truth is, at best, secondary. They even deny the existence of truth by advancing an imaginary distinction between absolute truth and relative truth.

In my view most everything, at its best is a search for truth. That certainly applies to history. It also applies to journalism, the judicial system, to science, and academia.

[M Kehoe]

Old enough to remember Eisenhower.

Richard Nixon too.

Now, old enough to have seen a stolen general election (twice).

5.56mm

[P.O.E.]

Just was talking to the missus about that this morning.

I lived through the 60’s protests, Vietnam, assassinations, urban renewal, scandals, upheavals, runaway stagflation, etc.

I learned a lot about the Great Depression, WWII & WWI from parents & grandparents. As well as culture (music, art, etc.)

I’ve read hundreds of books, traveled all over the planet, walked many walks of life, hobnobbed with the muckity mucks, dealt with friends & relatives as they suffered with divorce, illness, substance abuse. Worked with every race, creed, nationality, color, etc.

But according to the current crop of self-anointed know-it-alls, I’m just and old racist or somesuch and should just shut up.

[Beowulf9]

Vietnam is one wordl

[CodeToad]

I wasn’t an adult but I was old enough to remember it on TV night after night, and I was old enough to remember the divide this country after after it. They tried their communist tactics then as they are now.

[Exit148]

Old enough to remember Pearl Harbor. When it happened, everyone wanted to know where it was.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: I’m old enough to remember the Viet Nam era.

Bottom line and in hindsight, was it worth it for America to get involve?

[ifinnegan]

You’re old enough to blather pointlessly too.

Seriously can’t tell if you were supporting the war or against it, for the hippes and RFK or not etc...

[ChessExpert]

Kennedy started our involvement in Vietnam. LBJ prosecuted the war poorly. Nixon won the war and set South Vietnam on the path of peace and prosperity similar to that of South Korea.

After Watergate, the new left-wing Democratic Congress abandoned Vietnam. They cut-off funds to South Vietnam. They passed laws against any U.S. military involvement in Vietnam.

The Soviets responded to US Congressional action by re-arming the North Vietnamese. North Vietnamese regulars came in with more tanks than Patton had in World War II. The South Vietnamese ran out of bullets.

Two years after Nixon’s orderly withdrawal of US forces, South Vietnam was conquered.

[a fool in paradise]

>>The event(s) were rapidly picked up by every “news” and entertainment outlet (look familiar ?) and broadcast to the planet that a bunch of long haired men, all wearing denim and beads flashing something called a “peace sign”, with their long haired beautiful women in colorful array, supporting her man, had united around ONE THING ... US involvement in (and slowly becoming the) Viet Nam (War)
>>By 1967/8, LIFE magazine (and others) were informing us that there was a global movement.

There was a global movement. In England the antiwar movement came out of the anti-nuke movement. The anti-nuke movement allegedly created the peace symbol (I am not referring to the peace hand sign).

But who knows these days. Even the smiley face button/logo has been claimed by numerous creators.

https://cnduk.org/the-symbol/

The CND symbol is one of the most widely known symbols in the world; in Britain it is recognised as standing for nuclear disarmament – and in particular as the logo of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND). In the rest of the world it is known more broadly as the peace symbol.

It was designed in 1958 by Gerald Holtom, a professional designer and artist and a graduate of the Royal College of Arts. He had been invited to design artwork for use on what became the first Aldermaston March, organised by the Direct Action Committee against Nuclear War (DAC). He showed his preliminary sketches to a DAC meeting in February 1958 at the Peace News offices in North London.

Gerald Holtom, a conscientious objector who had worked on a farm in Norfolk during the Second World War, explained that the symbol incorporated the semaphore letters N(uclear) and D(isarmament).

He later wrote to Hugh Brock, editor of Peace News, explaining the genesis of his idea in greater, more personal depth:
‘I was in despair. Deep despair. I drew myself: the representative of an individual in despair, with hands palm outstretched outwards and downwards in the manner of Goya's peasant before the firing squad. I formalised the drawing into a line and put a circle round it.’

Although specifically designed for the anti-nuclear movement it has quite deliberately never been copyrighted. No one has to pay or to seek permission before they use it. A symbol of freedom, it is free for all.

[Desparado]

Interesting fact: the majority of people in Viet Nam have little or no memory of the Viet Nam War.

[doorgunner69]

Remember it?

Hell, I was there......