What has happened since?
Posted on 04/11/2021 8:00:48 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
In our collective battle in the Philippines against COVID-19 and its minions or variants there is now a great divide. On one side are the men and women from all professions and expertise who seek any and all remedies, possibilities and solutions to save lives, cure those infected and prevent further destruction and infections from taking place. They are the ones that have pushed for many new techniques, doing away with certain treatments for certain patients, improving handling, using different kinds of medicines for “Off Label” use such as Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, Remdesivir, Leronlimab and others.
On the dark side of the divide are the government “experts” and authorities who seek safety, protection and to wash their hands the same way Pontius Pilate did. These people on the dark side are those who have memorized and recite a phrase in order to justify their inaction or their seeming indifference or unwillingness to just listen, read or consider possibilities:
“The clinical practice guidelines of the Philippines and the DOH drafted by experts on COVID-19 state that: There is insufficient evidence to recommend the use of – in the treatment of patients with COVID-19.”
Add to this the official statement of the Food and Drug Administration or FDA that they are willing to immediately issue a “Compassionate Use Permit” for such products or medicines provided that a licensed physician makes the request under the condition that the physician undertakes responsibility for any and all outcomes related to the use of the medicine. Further, the medicine must have undergone scientific study related to its use for COVID-19 treatments.
This is the height of HYPOCRISY and BUREAUCRATIC BS! Can someone from the DOH or any one in the world certify, authenticate and validate that there is, or there are, true COVID-19 experts in our midst? The disease is anywhere from 14 months to 18 months old in terms of human history. We may have true experts in virology, genome sequencing and contagion, but even the leading MDs in the US and Europe have said in so many interviews that COVID-19 is still a puzzle and a global challenge.
There are certainly no “experts” on COVID-19, especially not in the DOH. Even Secretary of Health Dr. Francisco Duque, has deferred time and again to the WHO, which from time to time has had to recalibrate its position or opinion on several matters such as the source of the virus, the use of face masks, democratic and humane distribution of vaccines. They pick and choose what to say or do as they go because there is no proven handbook or history of managing COVID-19.
Time and again the naysayers in the DOH, IATF and FDA have pointed out that there are no long-term or wide-ranging clinical studies regarding the medicines now being pushed for consideration by other physicians desperate to save people’s lives. First of all, it is the same situation for almost all the vaccines currently in the pipeline. Most of the vaccines are either lacking in the required stages of testing, lacking in scientific data and papers for review, are manifesting never before seen adverse effects and yet in its desperation the Republic of the Philippines, through the FDA, has issued EUAs or Emergency Use Authorizations and has allowed the vaccination of all our frontliners. Did anybody consider that if something seriously went wrong we would have wiped out our health sector using vaccines that have been tested only in less than a handful of countries?
It seems to me that when it is convenient or necessary for the government, DOH or FDA, they can wave their hand in approval but when smaller groups are calling for government to CONSIDER or STUDY a possible solution, the people in the dark side immediately fash mobs and beat down the idea and the proponents.
Here is another thing to consider, if the DOH and FDA claim to have experts studying the data on alternative drugs, may we know who and how exactly are these experts doing the study and for how long do they conduct research in order to authoritatively declare that what they say is gospel truth and uncontestable? It would take months to go through the scientific studies just to read them, then validate or corroborate. It would take half a year to years to duplicate or conduct confirmatory laboratory/clinical/patient-based studies.
As far as I can remember, most of the medicines proposed for consideration were only brought to public attention within the last six months. So if some paid consultant simply read through a 20-page summary or read the accompanying leaflet for a medicine, sorry that is reading the instructions, not research.
As for the Compassionate Use Authority of the FDA, there is not an ounce of compassion in it, when in order to get the FDA permission, a doctor or physician has to expose him or her self to being sued by anybody and run the risk of being stripped of their license to practice medicine just because a dying or critically ill patient was administered a medicine on “Off Label Use” as a last choice.
The logic and intent of the Compassionate Use Authority is to save a life or remedy a critical situation; the assumption is that it is a desperate move and if the family of the patient has been informed and agreed to it, perhaps even signed a waiver, then no doctor should be required or forced to sign such undertaking or responsibility. It is bad enough to lose a patient, such an undertaking of responsibility is an insult to the medical profession that is rooted in saving lives at all cost.
Ivermectin works.
I’m studying this:
WORLD SHOCKED BY SPARS 2025-2028 DOCUMENT
https://www.bitchute.com/video/9Qb6OhTrc7Pc/
https://stars.library.ucf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1029&context=jicrcr
This is heartbreaking.
Heart wrenching and just ire raising to the max.
In any stage of the disease, and as a prophylactic, plus it is exceedingly safe.
*** On the dark side of the divide are the government “experts” and authorities who seek safety, protection and to wash their hands the same way Pontius Pilate did. These people on the dark side are those who have memorized and recite a phrase in order to justify their inaction or their seeming indifference or unwillingness to just listen, read or consider possibilities:***
^^^This.
It’s why I detest Fauci. Pontius Pilate flip flopper. Can’t stand him.
Good for Panama!
Interesting...
Ivermectin is at best an impartial solution. All we need to do is turn our attention to India. Early on in the in remedy in craze many of the people desperate to demonstrate some conspiracy pointed to India with its wide distribution of ivermectin as the shining example. Unfortunately India is now being decimated by a severe wave despite widespread ivermectin use.
So in looking at eel time data it is irresponsible to say with a blanket statement that ivermectin works. It is an incomplete therapeutic and the data demonstrate this quite well. So please stop spreading opinion as fact. For the opinion that ivermectin is a cure is dangerously wrong.
You are wildly incorrect. Ivermectin does not work in any phase of disease. How many patients and in what phase of disease have you treated with ivermectin?
So does Hydroxychloroqyuiine. We went to Front Line Doctors to get some for our son who was dying and in short order, had they not ordered it for him. PTL it is working! I only wish our son had told us earlier!
Unfortunately your graph demonstrates that ivermectin was approved near the top of a siege. The natural length of a surge is approximately 80 days (Israeli mathematical studies). Each siege curve looks exactly the same. We have to look to India to determine causation. They have been widely distributing ivermectin for months and yet are in the throes of a major surge.
Interesting it appears that the life cycle of this disease is bimodal with a first then a second surge. After that is appears to settle. See England and South Africa
It is not reasonable to attribute Panama decline to ivermectin. It is merely coincidental.
RE: Early on in the in remedy in craze many of the people desperate to demonstrate some conspiracy pointed to India with its wide distribution of ivermectin as the shining example. Unfortunately India is now being decimated by a severe wave despite widespread ivermectin use.
India is a big country. What I’d like to know is how Is widespread is this distribution in India?
Is the severe wave India is experiencing now in those provinces and cities that DO have Ivermectin widely distributed or not?
Next question:
RE: Ivermectin is at best an impartial solution
Impartial solution to me, means it works under certain conditions and does not work under others. Do you know under which conditions it works and under which conditions it does not?
Here in Cebu City the southern Philippines, I stocked up on Ivermectin back in November. For the heck of it I checked out the Online Store here where I ordered it from and they’re either sold out or the government is cracking down on these businesses.
RE: Unfortunately your graph demonstrates that ivermectin was approved near the top of a siege. The natural length of a surge is approximately 80 days (Israeli mathematical studies)
So, what you’re saying is the curve would still have been the same even if Ivermectin was NOT approved?
Do you know how many people live in India? There is no way they have distributed Ivermectin on a mass scale. There is no way they have enough pills. Not to mention their Caste system.
I am not saying it is a guarantee but there is plenty of evidence that off the shelf treatments deliver benefit to those infected. Meanwhile, all those who are infected derive no benefit from a vaccine. We have thrown everyone infected under the bus on a hope and prayer that vaccines will save everyone else.
RE: Unfortunately India is now being decimated by a severe wave despite widespread ivermectin use.
The main states in India that has distributed Ivermectin widely are the Northern States of Uttar Pradesh and Bihar.
See here:
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“By the end of 2020, Uttar Pradesh — which distributed free ivermectin for home care — had the second-lowest fatality rate in India at 0.26 per 100,000 residents in December. Only the state of Bihar, with 128 million residents, was lower, and it, too, recommends ivermectin,” writes Mary Beth Pfeiffer of TSN.
Now, where are the Indian states that are experiencing peaks in Covid-19 cases? This would be interesting to find out.
What is the proper dosage of this drug?
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