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‘PENN 15’ skyscraper funding goes flaccid in state budget deal
NY Post ^ | 6 Apr 2021 | David Meyer

Posted on 04/07/2021 8:28:30 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s bid to erect 10 new skyscrapers around Penn Station — including one with the eyebrow-raising name of “PENN 15” — may have shriveled under the state budget deal reached by the governor and legislative leaders on Tuesday.

“With a vacancy rate at over 17 percent in Midtown we need to think about creating jobs, not employee office space,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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Looks like what's his name brother has lost his mojo?
1 posted on 04/07/2021 8:28:30 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Commercial office space would not be an investment I’d be looking at right now. If COVID has taught us anything, working from home is very doable.


2 posted on 04/07/2021 8:32:43 AM PDT by BBQToadRibs2
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Killer belongs in the State Pen for 15.


3 posted on 04/07/2021 8:32:58 AM PDT by Paladin2
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"The project would be led by Vornado Realty Trust, which is owned by Cuomo donor Steven Roth."
4 posted on 04/07/2021 8:33:25 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

In a world where elevators can only carry two people, how do you justify skyscrapers? Helicopter landings on each floor?


5 posted on 04/07/2021 8:35:29 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: BBQToadRibs2

A fiend of mine works in commercial real estate investment. It’s being turned on its ear in ways many people don’t even grasp. Building ANYTHING in an urban area right now is ridiculously risky.

Well, except maybe a fire extinguisher store.


6 posted on 04/07/2021 8:37:26 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: BBQToadRibs2

In NYC it’s worse than that. An office building can be converted to a luxury residential property, but New York (City and State) is so dysfunctional and mismanaged that NYC developers are bailing on those projects, too.


7 posted on 04/07/2021 8:39:29 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: cuban leaf

There are four people allowed in my NYC skyscraper on Lex Ave. Sometimes we’ll crowd in five because we are rebels.


8 posted on 04/07/2021 8:42:34 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (By stealing Trump's second term, the Left gets Trump for 8 more years instead of just four.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
A "shriveled, flaccid PENN15"? OMG.

Maybe it was in the pool.

Where's the Seinfeld "SHRINKAGE!" meme?

9 posted on 04/07/2021 8:43:03 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“PENN 15”
“goes flaccid”
“erect 10 new skyscrapers”
“shriveled”

Double entendres possibly at play here? Nah...


10 posted on 04/07/2021 8:44:21 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (The Weak Never Started, The Cowards fail along the way, Only the Strong Survive)
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To: cuban leaf

—”In a world where elevators can only carry two people,”

The higher the building the larger loss of rentable space to services, like the elevators.

Plue the elevator cars are costly.

They are not intending to give the building away for free.

Life in the big city.


11 posted on 04/07/2021 8:52:45 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: cuban leaf

Not all urban areas are overbuilt yet

Nashville downtown office vacancy is 7.5%

And that’s with record space coming online as Nashville and Austin lead the nation in tower cranes

Manhattan has been damaged by Covid and political policy no question

Nashville is fairly open but since it’s a leftist town they still mostly wear masks


12 posted on 04/07/2021 8:58:03 AM PDT by wardaddy (P IN 1999 JIM THOMPSON WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE BUSHES ...WE WERE WRONG lz’’z:s)
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—”An office building can be converted to a luxury residential property”

Do they do that with an older high-rise?

The cost to rework the plumbing and electrical, would be astronomical? Fire protection?

But they save the curtain wall because it is something special?


13 posted on 04/07/2021 8:59:18 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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Cum-O pulling fresh cash outta his back hole. West China continues its spin...


14 posted on 04/07/2021 9:01:16 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (Why Is DC fenced in and on lockdown while our Southern Border is wide open? Third World Tyranny!)
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Cum-O pulling fresh cash outta his back hole. West China continues its spin...


15 posted on 04/07/2021 9:02:08 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (Watch your back.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

That two person rule won’t last forever

I’ve never had skyscraper elevators built for me but I have had 3-4 story ones....where in fact it is a big chunk of the budget say in a metal self storage multi story facility

It depends on how fast and fancy

Freight elevators....you could build one for 60,000 for four floors easy in 2000s

Otis ....the captains of elevators in the USA

Now those super speed express luxury models in fancy buildings are expensive I’m sure

You’d be surprised in the fancy areas of Nashville or fancy beach houses how many have little elevators

Amazing


16 posted on 04/07/2021 9:04:09 AM PDT by wardaddy (P IN 1999 JIM THOMPSON WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE BUSHES ...WE WERE WRONG lz’’z:s)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

They are not intending to give the building away for free.


Yeah. A lot of then will just be foreclosed on. I’ve seen that movie several times in my lifetime (I used to sell commercial real estate).


17 posted on 04/07/2021 9:05:46 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The thinly-veiled references to the male member, including in the title, are unnecessary and gratuitous and border on pornographic. The thread should be until the author emerges from adolescence.


18 posted on 04/07/2021 9:06:12 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: wardaddy

Yeah, there are exceptions. My daughter’s company moved all their operations from Studio City, CA to nashville a couple of years ago.

Then again, Humana and my company occupy most of the space in downtown Louisville, but those buildings have been virtually empty for a year - yet they are still “occupied”.


19 posted on 04/07/2021 9:07:57 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: BBQToadRibs2

My son-in-law owns his own company and employs just under 40 developers (programmers). It’s in Seattle. He’s made two changes with WFH:
1. He let his building lease expire at the end of last year
2. He’s hired his last Seattle employee. They are overpriced and location no longer matters. He’ll be hiring from tier 2 and 3 markets from now on.

I’m sure he’s not alone.


20 posted on 04/07/2021 9:10:10 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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