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What Do Riders Really Think of SEPTA? Answers Are a Huge Challenge for Transit Agency [Philadelphia]
WCAU, NBC 10, Philadelphia ^ | April 5, 2021 at 11:48 pm | Matt DeLucia and NBC10.com Staff

Posted on 04/06/2021 11:58:19 AM PDT by Olog-hai

SEPTA riders are candid about what they see on buses, subways and the Market-Frankford elevated line.

And some of them say what they have seen has made them reluctant to ride right now — which is a huge problem for a transit agency that gets hundreds of thousands of people to work daily.

“Dirty trash. I’ve seen empty needles,” said Charles Williams of West Philadelphia.

“It was filth everywhere”, said Mona Scruggs of Northeast Philadelphia. “I had to buy a newspaper every day, just so I could sit on the newspaper, because I didn’t want to sit on the seat.”

Cleanliness on the system grabbed headlines this year, when SEPTA had to close the Somerset Station on the Market-Frankford line due to a litany of problems. The station had piles of trash as well as urine and feces in it. So many needles had been thrown into the elevator — and the elevator had been urinated on so often — that it was unusable. […]

More than one in four of our survey’s respondents say they have stopped using SEPTA altogether.

“I just think it’s at its worst now,” said Quan Harvin, a SEPTA rider. …

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcphiladelphia.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Local News; Travel; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: democrats; jimkenney; kenney; pennsylvania; philadelphia; sanctuarycities; septa; septic
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1 posted on 04/06/2021 11:58:19 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

In most of our lifetimes, cities were clean, relatively safe, no litter, no graffiti, no bums, none of the filth described here, no public drug use, no needles scattered all over.

Is there ever going to be a way back to that era? Or is it going to be a nonstop slide to oblivion?


2 posted on 04/06/2021 12:01:17 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (The Weak Never Started, The Cowards fail along the way, Only the Strong Survive)
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To: Olog-hai

Is SEPTA septic, perhaps? 😉


3 posted on 04/06/2021 12:01:49 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see... )
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To: Olog-hai

Philly’s public transit has always been a filthy, slow, dangerous nightmare. No one who has any other option should be using it. Of course, I’ve never been a fan of that city to begin with. Or most cities, for that matter.


4 posted on 04/06/2021 12:02:28 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: Olog-hai

Sounds like Philly’s lower intestine.


5 posted on 04/06/2021 12:03:41 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

We’re quickly sliding down the drain.


6 posted on 04/06/2021 12:08:02 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see... )
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To: fatima; Fresh Wind; st.eqed; xsmommy; House Atreides; Nowhere Man; PaulZe; brityank; Physicist; ...

Pennsylvania Ping!

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FReepmail me to be added to the list.

7 posted on 04/06/2021 12:16:50 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Olog-hai

What do most midstaters think of SEPTA?

S ucking
E nergy
P urchase
T axes
A way


8 posted on 04/06/2021 12:18:07 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Olog-hai

Philthadumpia.


9 posted on 04/06/2021 12:32:24 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Der Impfstoff macht frei.)
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To: Olog-hai

Like most “mess” transit, it’s rolling toilets and homeless shelters that pass through stationary toilets and homeless shelters, unwillingly paid for by people who avoid using it.


10 posted on 04/06/2021 12:38:42 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I was talking to someone recently about some of these changes we have seen in recent years. And she told me, well, we don’t want to romantacize the ‘50s, because there were still Jim Crow laws, women didn’t have rights, gays were in the closet, etc. etc.

I don’t understand the mindset of someone like that. We were actually talking about how bad problems we have with trash, gang graffiti, homeless people, etc. and she brings up how we don’t want to turn back the clock on gays.


11 posted on 04/06/2021 1:23:59 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Olog-hai; 2banana; Albion Wilde; Antoninus; big truck; brityank; bt-99; ConorMacNessa; cowboyusa; ..
*** Philly Metro Ping ***

Can't Get To Heaven on the Frankford El - The American Dream
12 posted on 04/06/2021 1:24:38 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Olog-hai

Maybe don’t name your public transit system something so easily confused with “septic system” and people wouldn’t use it as a commode.


13 posted on 04/06/2021 1:28:04 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

It’s had that name since November of 1965. All of 55 years of existence, leeching off the public and turning formerly private railroads into tenants on their own properties until the government forced buyouts on them.


14 posted on 04/06/2021 1:30:58 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

There is only way to return cities to civilization.

The Democratic Party will have to be outlawed as a criminal organization—banned as a political party.

Otherwise—fuggetaboutit.


15 posted on 04/06/2021 2:50:45 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Olog-hai

Philthadelphia has been that way for decades. I was at 30th Street Station on the Suburban level back in 1985, where the stairs to the platform smelled strongly of urine.


16 posted on 04/06/2021 2:55:03 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (Antifa=BLM=RevCom=CPUSA = CCP=Democratic Party )
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To: lightman

SEPTA...Screw Every Person Thoroughly, Always.

(Passengers and employees alike.)


17 posted on 04/06/2021 3:00:18 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy...and call it progress" )
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To: Kid Shelleen

The article posted here mentions the closing of the "Somerset Station" on the El.   The very next station on the El ("Allegheny Station") was featured in a UK article which was posted here on FR recently, and the article contained videos and photos of the mess under that Allegheny Station of the El at night.


For anyone who might have missed it, you can see that article here:


    "Philadelphia's Skid Row: Shocking video captures city's homeless crisis with dozens camped out along 'largest open-air drug market on the East Coast'" - (Daily Mail - UK)


    "Philadelphia's Skid Row: Shocking video captures city's homeless crisis with dozens camped out along 'largest open-air drug market on the East Coast'" - (Free Republic)

18 posted on 04/06/2021 3:08:43 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Olog-hai

Before becoming "SEPTA", under prior owners it used to be called "Philadelphia Transportation Company" (PTC), and before that, it was called "Philadelphia Rapid Transit" (PRT).


    


    

19 posted on 04/06/2021 3:18:31 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Songcraft

There was also the Philadelphia Suburban Transportation Company, aka the Red Arrow Lines. The former Philadelphia & Western Railroad became SEPTA’s Norristown High-Speed Line. The “Regional Rail” lines are formerly the property and operations of the Pennsylvania and Reading railroads, save the Center City tunnel that was built by the city of Philadelphia.


20 posted on 04/06/2021 3:25:11 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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