Posted on 04/04/2021 9:20:24 AM PDT by RandFan
@PeterSchiff
When our republic was formed voting was not a right. There is no "right to vote" in the Bill of Rights. Voting was a privilege restricted by age, poll taxes, literacy tests, property ownership, etc. The goal was an informed and responsible electorate, not maximum participation.
@PeterSchiff
The goal of an election is good government. It's better to have a good government elected by a minority, then a bad one elected by a majority. I'd rather not qualify to vote personally and have others elect a good government, then participate in the process of electing a bad one.
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Touche.
The Constitution makes no mention of the parents of any person born on American soil (Natural Born Citizen) having to be citizens of the U.S. in order for their offspring to be able to run for the presidency or vice presidency......Nada, None!
The children of foreigners ARE foreigners, they inherit the foreign nationality of their foreign parent(s).
One is only NATURALLY an American is when they could not e anything else..
Everyone who is given US citizenship at birth is not a natural born citizen.
The last King of Thailand was born here, was he eligible to be President?
"Controversial to say this but it's true. Watch liberals go nuts."
So I assume you disagree with the statement of fact that ...
"When our republic was formed voting was not a right. There is no "right to vote" in the Bill of Rights. Voting was a privilege restricted by age, poll taxes, literacy tests, property ownership, etc. The goal was an informed and responsible electorate, not maximum participation."
YOU said that would be opening a can of worms ...
Our founders had it right.
Only responsible stakeholders SHOULD be able to vote.
Women were kept by men, children were dumb, blacks were slaves, etc.
Maybe it's a can that should be opened
I did not impugn any particular woman let alone your mother, I assume she is one of the conservative women who is harmed by the votes of other women.
Of course men have not always voted correctly but after women got the vote they as a group have always voted worse than men, that is a fact.
Those who rule the nation should of course allow GOD to direct them and seek to obey his will but we are not talking about that, we are talking about which people will have the responsibility to rule as GOD wants.
The Bible is quite clear:
Isaiah 3:12
“As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.”
King James Version (KJV)
And I would say 18 year olds count as children.
NBC was a known legal term at the time the Constitution was written, it didn’t need to be defined in the Constitution.
At the time a wife’s citizenship was determined by her husband’s so the only thing that can be debated is whether an NBC needs one or two citizen parents.
Take note that neither Israel nor Judah ever had a queen regnant, so that doesn’t specify the political realm. Not to mention, during Israel’s kritarchic age, Deborah was counted among the just judges.
Also, it takes certain male votes to give suffrage to females. Certainly doing so is historically following the example of the USSR, but just as enfranchised conservative women can be countered by their liberal counterparts, so it is with men.
When I wrote that this was opening a can of worms, I meant that there would be some discussion on this matter.
And here you are discussing away.
You’re one of the most discussing people I’ve ever come across on Free Republic.
I’d like to have more discussion with you on worms and cans and such, but I have to go and wash out some socks.
It’s an exciting life I lead.
Judah most certainly had a queen, and quite a wicked one:
2 Kings 11:1
“And when Athaliah the mother of Ahaziah saw that her son was dead, she arose and destroyed all the seed royal.”
King James Version (KJV)
I suggest you read the Bible more.
GOD personally chose Deborah, we do not have him doing that for us.
There are real differences between women and men, they are not the same.
And those differences cause women to have a much worse voting record than men.
And there is no U.S. Constitutional right for citizens to vote for president. Each state provides a constitutional right to vote for president.
The U.S. Constitution provides that each state legislature will select a group of electors, to be sent to the Electoral College, said electors to be chosen in whatever manner each state finds appropriate.
That is what finalized the Florida presidential vote in 2000. That could have determined the outcome of the 2020 election IF the state legislatures had stood up AND SCOTUS had chosen to hear election challenges in those states under investigation.
Not One Man -> One Vote, but One Taxpayer -> One Vote. You don’t pay your taxes, you don’t vote.
Athaliah was a usurper rather than a legitimate queen regnant. That’s why I didn’t count her. On top of that, she was the daughter of Ahab and Jezebel of the northern kingdom of Israel, not of David’s line.
The Uniparty didn’t think women were voting too far left last year.
According to exit polling in the 2020 Presidential Election in the United States, 56 percent of surveyed females reported voting for former Vice President Joe Biden. In the race to become the next president of the United States, 49 percent of men reported voting for incumbent President Donald Trump. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1184424/presidential-election-exit-polls-share-votes-gender-us/
I believe exit polling as much as I believe the “results” of the 2020 election, with all due respect. That includes from 2016, given who the members of the National Election Pool (NEP) are (and Fox News has been working with ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC and the Associated Press since 2004 in that organization).
All polls are tweaked to the left, there is no doubt of that.
But they are not tweaking women to the left more than they tweak men to the left.
And polls show the leftward tilt of women going back as far as you can.
There are biological and psychological reasons for it.
Women are built to want someone strong to protect them and provide for them.
They are also built to be risk averse (freedom is dangerous) and to micromanage children.
None of those are traits that tend towards good government.
The U.S. Constitution provides that each state legislature will select a group of electors, to be sent to the Electoral College, said electors to be chosen in whatever manner each state finds appropriate.
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There is a troll who likes to blame Rand Paul for certifying the election but in Rand’s defense he said it is up to the State legislatures which are (were) GOP controlled. They sent Biden electors and Rand says he finds it hard to overturn this.
I keep telling this troll his beef is with the GOP State legislatures. Am I right? Insights welcome.
Yes. The state legislatures yielded their power - a full topic for another time. Now they are facing voter backlash and are trying to compensate. Legally the U.S. Congress could correct the errors; it has been done before. The overall problem: (one word) Republican. The conspiracy to overthrow the Republic is deep... it will be difficult now to recover it.
Mitch McConnell should have challenged the 2020 election results in Georgia. Everyone could see the election problems. Instead, he let it go to a runoff knowing that he would lose the Senate. That describes the 2020 election results in a nutshell.
All the corrective efforts by the state's mean nothing. Nothing about the 2020 election will change; there was massive fraud. And look at the severe reaction to the Georgia election reforms; despite overwhelming voter support our new masters are viciously attacking with lies, lies, lies!
Gird your loins; trying times are upon us.
Thanks for the reply Bob.
I had not considered the McConnell angle. He is (WAS) a leader in a position to challenge but didn’t. He rolled over.
I think blaming the likes of Rand or the other senators is harsh.
They did not feel comfortable in overturning the states delegates. If three was proper leadership from Mitch then things could have been different.
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