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1 posted on 03/29/2021 12:10:23 PM PDT by Red Badger
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Appears the cure is worse than the disease.


2 posted on 03/29/2021 12:12:45 PM PDT by Third Wheel
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it’s time for the truth to start being part of the discussion because I am SICK of the propaganda. I know of THREE people that have died from the vaccine; none from covid.


3 posted on 03/29/2021 12:12:56 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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“Report an Adverse Event to VAERS

VAERS is a passive reporting system, meaning it relies on individuals to send in reports of their experiences. Anyone can submit a report to VAERS, including parents and patients....

...Online reporting is strongly encouraged. Please report clinically important adverse events that occur after vaccination of adults and children, even if you are not sure whether the vaccine caused the adverse event....”

https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html

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Two weeks after getting my 2nd Moderna shot, I came down with about a half hour fit of sneezing. My wife tried to convince me that it happened because I was down in the cellar cleaning, stirring up and breathing in lots of accumulated dust.

Since my final dose of the COVID-19 vaccine was taken a mere two weeks before the sneezing fit I blamed that vaccination and not the dust.

I responsibly reported it to VAERS as an adverse reaction to the vaccine.


4 posted on 03/29/2021 12:13:47 PM PDT by House Atreides
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Should correlate the deaths to the number of jabs given to the average mortality for that number to the time frame reported.


5 posted on 03/29/2021 12:14:10 PM PDT by AU72
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To: metmom; ransomnote

Ping.


6 posted on 03/29/2021 12:14:14 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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Ping!


7 posted on 03/29/2021 12:15:50 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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I’m going to take a pass on the “vaccine” for the time being, thanks.


8 posted on 03/29/2021 12:16:29 PM PDT by dainbramaged (The best bilge pump is a scared man with a bucket.)
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bttt


9 posted on 03/29/2021 12:17:45 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( PRAY FOR OUR NATION. I will never be a peaceful slave in a new Socialist America.)
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Excerpted from prior post on FR:

Here’s some quotes from the HHS Guide to Interpreting Data in VAERS:

“When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established.”

“VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.”

“VAERS reports can be submitted voluntarily by anyone, including healthcare providers, patients, or family members. Reports vary in quality and completeness. They often lack details and sometimes can have information that contains errors.”

“A report to VAERS generally does not prove that the identified vaccine(s) caused the adverse event described.”

No proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS to accept the report.”

https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html

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ransomnote: There's also no proof that the event was NOT caused by the vaccine, because no experimental gene therapy rushed to market in 6 months without sufficient testing or FDA approval could possibly have enough evidence to prove anything.

That's why they are rushing to get as many 'shots' in arms as possible before someone halts this awful travesty.

Causal data takes years to accumulate (est. 10 years  of blood, urine, and other bio assessments, extensive human trials to determine long term impacts, etc.). So essentially you are arguing the fact that the mRNA Covid 'vaccines' are not FDA approved, little understood, and insufficiently tested renders the only information available to the public regarding deaths from the Covid-19 'vaccines' of no value. By this reasoning, the medical establishment can role out whatever 'vaccine' it wants and won't consider this data valid and no corrections will be made if a vaccine proves harmful until years down the road when it's studied. No matter how many people die daily, according to your 'reasoning', the public and the medical community should not use this data.

Using VAERS event data, 1985 deaths have been reported since adminstration began December 14, 2020. A total of 103 days have elapsed during the administration of the vaccine. Based only on observations recorded in VAERS, an average of 19 deaths per day have been reporte for Covid in VAERS during the entire administration of the Covid 'vaccine' in the U.S.

But since the rule-of-thumb for VAERS data is that only 10% of total events are reported, there has likely been 19,850 actual deaths during this time period which is an average 190 people per day.

But according to  your 'logic', it doesn't matter if 500,000 deaths were reported to VAERS for the COVID vaccine for this time period, which would be a daily average of 4,854.

There would be no proof that the COVID vaccine is NOT responsible for this fantastically exaggerated average number of deaths per day, just as there would be no proof that it is responsible for them. This is why it disgusts me to see you blanket every conversation and thread with your 'talking points'. You intentionally assert a burden of proof based on data you know will be unavailable for 10 years or more.  

When people grasp at the only data they can find (e.g., VAERS) your kind sneers that the data means NOTHING. If we accept your logic, the public would not have a single shred of information no matter how many people collapse and die   - even if they did so within 40 seconds of having the injection, because the experimental 'vaccines' have never been sufficiently studied so the cause/effect relationship has not been demonstrated in the lab, YET.

Now that I know how deeply the CDC has betrayed the public with its malevolent manipulation (e.g., withholding effective treatments while people die, lying about masks, immunity, the 'vaccines', knowing use of the  invalid PCR) I believe that the CDC would not hesitate to underreport death totals as there would be no other record of deaths available to the public to compare with. It's the kind of lie with which the CDC has become accustomed.

71 posted on 3/27/2021, 10:22:28 PM by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)

12 posted on 03/29/2021 12:21:18 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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Good grief!

Out of 51,500,000 full vaccinations delivered, you're talking about less than a tenth of one percent of having any adverse reaction at all.

If you don't want to get vaccinated, then don't.

We are still bitching about phony stats on the Wu-flu itself; don't start with BS on the vaccines.

14 posted on 03/29/2021 12:23:31 PM PDT by budj (Combat vet, 2nd of three generations.)
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pt to be discharged on cefepime, had PICC line)

Petey was made to discharge on who? Did a line of what?

pt got up from bed, sat on the edge of the bed and was being given belongings by the nurse

Why had she ripped off Petey's stuff? What a bitch.

suddenly pt grabbed at his chest and stated “I can”t breathe”

Petey channeling George Floyd up in there.
Nursey Nan probably shouldn't have stolen his stuff.

became combative and altered when O2 was attempted to be placed on pt”s face

Petey got altered? He Patricia now? Damn.

then pt had PEA arrest x3 and unable to achieve ROSC.

Petey got busted for stolen peas?
That kept Petey from entering the Remote Observers, Spastic Corps?

This is really a sad tale, especially for Petey.

16 posted on 03/29/2021 12:28:25 PM PDT by humblegunner (Balls To Picasso.)
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Unfortunately, as bad as those numbers are they are only a fraction of the reported, but not yet published data. VAERS is two months behind in publishing reports.

Author has updated the very interesting animated chart on published VAERS I had posted yesterday. Each week VAERS publishes new reports and also back-fills previous weeks’ unpublished reports. In late February they were reporting on early January covid vax VAERS at 200-400 a day. In each of the following 4 weeks they have revised those numbers upward and they are now up to 3,000 a day for the early January VAERS.

https://twitter.com/birb_k/with_replies

“VAERS BACK-PUBLISHING UPDATE (26 MAR). Adverse Event backfill curve actually steeper than before. At a rate of publishing 5-7 thousand/week, seems impossible to get proper visibility into important data under EUA to support informed consent while “vaccinations” are fast track.”

“VAERS UNDER-PUBLISHING. Another attempt to visualize massive scale of unpublished adverse events. The way they are filling in old reports as catch-up seems like shoveling snow with a spoon. Rate of new reports rapidly outpacing catch-up. We can’t learn from what we can’t see.”
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Looks like we are a long way from getting the full info on the adverse effects/deaths from the covid vaccine.

Alex Berenson:

More evidence of a massive backlog in making #Covid vaccine side effect reports public - each VAERS report gets a unique ID, numbered roughly sequentially. Thus in 30+ years pre-Covid (to Dec. 2020) VAERS had received 770,000 reports, and it was at roughly VAERS ID #902,000...

In fact, the IDs were only six digits long, allowing for a maximum of 1 million reports. Which should have lasted at least late 2022 - in recent years, the system has averaged ~3,500 reports a month, mostly non-serious (from 2018-2020, it averaged 13 death reports a month)...

Then the mRNA vaccines showed up. With a few weeks the odometer rolled and the system needed seven digits. Now the IDs are past 1,115,348 (a death report received March 19) - implying ~180,000 reports received from early December (assuming the ID sequencing has not changed)...

Further, the reports have become much more serious; for the first 19 days of March the system published ~50 reports of death or life-threatening injury EACH DAY (those are published - again, it is not yet clear how many were received)...

And @cdcgov and @generaldynamics, which manages VAERS, are now trying to gear up to handle the flood of reports. On March 8, CDC gave GD a budget supplement of $16 million; GD is now hiring more “service representatives” to take reports and medical coders to review them...

The good news is this puts the lie to the Vaccine Church’s “THE VAERS REP0RtS ARE full of LIES - and the proof is 15 years ago someone filed a fake one” nonsense. @CDCgov and GD do seem to be making a good-faith effort to build capacity and manage the database...

The bad news is that if the sequencing is even close to accurate, we are WAY behind in knowing what the side effects profile of the mRNAs really looks like. And how can a system that normally is tasked with looking at three death reports a week gear up to examine 50 or 100 times that many?


22 posted on 03/29/2021 12:31:00 PM PDT by Cathi
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Uh oh, the Branch Covidians will have to chime in on this.

They believe that they are ‘smarter’ than you and they’ve done their ‘research’, and are trusting of the so-called ‘authoritative sources’ of intel coming from the media.

Cue the Branch Covidian vaccine “authorities” in 3...2...1.....


24 posted on 03/29/2021 12:32:40 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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This topic has come up before. It is clear that a vaccine can cause an adverse reaction in some people. Most are quite mild.

But, in America roughly 7000 people die every day, on average. If you vaccinate 100 million people, some of them are going to die and it may have nothing at all to do with the vaccine.

Another bizarre statistic: The average life expectancy for an American is about 78 years. The average age of people who died with Covid is.. yup, about 78 years.


31 posted on 03/29/2021 12:41:30 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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It’s from the government so you can trust them?


36 posted on 03/29/2021 12:53:27 PM PDT by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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Another for you, Jane.

Just found out my oldest BFF and her DH got the Johnson shot. So sad. She thinks that Trump won’t be back, that tyranny is here to stay, and wants to be able to travel by plane to see family.

I am sick at heart about it.


37 posted on 03/29/2021 12:53:58 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Thirst for truth is the most valuable possession and no one can take it away from you.)
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A book called The Plutonium Files tells what government scientists did to unsuspecting Americans during and after the cold war.

From 1945 to 1947, 18 people were injected with plutonium by Manhattan project doctors.

In Nashville, pregnant women were given radioactive mixtures.

In Cincinnati, some 200 patients were irradiated over a period of 15 years. In Chicago, 102 people received injections of strontium and cesium solutions.

In Massachusetts, 57 developmentally disabled children were fed oatmeal laced with radioactive tracers in an experiment sponsored by MIT and the Quaker Oats Company.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Plutonium_Files

Who’s to say there’s not a little “experimenting” going on with these vacinnes?


44 posted on 03/29/2021 1:00:52 PM PDT by CodeJockey (Dum Spiro, Pugno)
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Wife and I both got the J&J last week. Sore arm for the wife for a few days. No problems for moi.

Held out for the J&J as I thought the mRNA was too new a technology. Old fashioned vaccine made sense. If it worked, it worked. If not—usually no problems.

I read the headline that 16 died after taking the J&J. How many have taken the shot?


45 posted on 03/29/2021 1:01:05 PM PDT by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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Bullshit proving there is a sucker born every minute...


61 posted on 03/29/2021 1:24:37 PM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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We are older (69 and 70), have diabetes (mine in good control, his, not so good -— beginning to have abnormal gfr’s) (how well the kidneys filter wastes), both overweight, I have high blood pressure, fairly well controlled, and he has emphysema, not very well controlled.
We have not had Covid19, and have not been vaccinated. We use steroid nasal inhalers twice daily, he’s on a blood thinner; I’m taking a baby aspirin every day, and we just started Quercitin about a week ago. We go shopping and out to eat, and to our tiny church. We DO wear masks and wash our hands and or use alcohol gel.
We are leaning towards NOT getting the vaccine. I’m a retired R.N., and while I don’t know as much as doctors, I DO know it takes several years to make a SAFE vaccine. When I see my doctor next week, I know he’s going to be angry with us not getting vaccinated, but I just don’t feel taking ANY of the current Covid19 “vaccines” is a safe, prudent thing to do.


62 posted on 03/29/2021 1:26:35 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing);)
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