Posted on 03/14/2021 7:35:17 AM PDT by linMcHlp
Small study shows powerful antibody response after first dose
Former COVID-19 patients may need only one dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech or Moderna vaccine to get the effect of two doses, researchers suggested.
The disease itself may "prime the body" to produce the antibodies seen with the two-dose regimen, according to an exploratory study reported at the virtual Conference on Retroviruses and Opportunistic Infections that examined titer levels of antibodies in patients who had COVID-19 and those who did not.
Mark Mulligan, MD, director of the Vaccine Center at New York University Langone Health in New York City, said that 6 to 14 days after patients received a vaccine dose, the specific titers associated with infection response were dramatically higher in patients who had previously had COVID-19 than in coronavirus-naive vaccine recipients, with titer levels of 200 versus 27, respectively.
In addition, Mulligan said, the second dose in patients who had COVID-19 didn't measurably increase the titers, whereas it did for previously uninfected patients.
(Excerpt) Read more at medpagetoday.com ...
Absolutely amazes me the number of folks stupid enough to let them shoot this evil experimental dead fetus cocktail into their veins, permanently altering their cell and DNA structure. Like the mark of the beast, once you take it, there is no going back. It’s done.
So much info coming out about these shots now, none of it good. I even heard one doctor talk about the potential for your body’s proteins being altered to where they will no longer fight off cancer cells.
In that case a lot of Karens will be dying shortly. We shall see. Did the Gates’ family take the shots?
“Whoda guessed it would take less rather than more?”
Well, science, I guess.
Since science seems to be making it up as we go along.
Trust them! And if you don’t trust them now...wait a month.
Frankly, if you’ve had it, why get a shot at all?
Yes, but that varies; and there are immune system memory factors that remain.
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At: "Here is how Johnson & Johnson's vaccine differs from Pfizer's and Moderna's."
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3938519/posts?page=27#27
03/01/2021 12:32:19 AM PST · 27 of 27
FRPR jonrick46 originally wrote to ifinnegan regarding the following info, after which, I had some questions about the info. You can see what they wrote at the FR link above, plus some subsequent exchanges, there.
The following is the result all that; my notes, in effect, but near verbatim re what they wrote; I tried to make it easier for me to read:
First, there is no DNA manipulation [as far as I have learned to date 03/03/2021].
The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines' blueprint Messenger RNA ["mRNA"] holds the program to create the exact copy of the SARS-2-CoV virus Protein Spike. Each vaccine's Messenger RNA ["mRNA"] is within a lipid nanoparticle [fatty nanoparticle].
That lipid nanoparticle fuses onto a cell wall membrane, and then that lipid nanoparticle releases the Messenger RNA ["mRNA"] into the cell, where that host cell's RIBOSOMES read the RNA instruction of the Messenger RNA ["mRNA"], in order to TRANSLATE the proteins that are exact copies of the SARS-2-CoV virus Spike Protein.
TRANSLATION is the name for the chemical reaction where mRNA is used as a template to make protein.
RIBOSOME is the enzyme that carries out that chemical reaction.
The newly-made SARS-2-CoV virus-like Spike Proteins, are then presented on the surface of the host cell's membrane, where they bind to the MHC-1 and MHC-2 complex molecules.
The MHC-1 complex is where these proteins attract T helper cells.
Only a few cells have those MHC-1 and MHC-2 complex molecules. The Messenger RNA ["mRNA"] of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, is specifically designed to fuse and deliver their RNA blueprint into those few cells.
Cells with the MHC-1 molecules are the B cells (lymphocites), macrophages (white blood cells) and dendritic cells.
Cells with the MHC-2 molecules are all cells with a nucleus.
These cells with the MHC-1 and MHC-2 complex molecules, have a specialized function, in producing the newly-made SARS-2-CoV virus-like Spike Proteins - when processing the Messenger RNA ["mRNA"] of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.
That is a limiting function, because those cells ONLY TRANSLATE the RNA so it can express itself (in the form of the Spike Proteins) on the MHC-1 complex or the MHc-2 complex, depending on what type of cell they are.
Once the MHC-1 complex or the MHc-2 complex of the host cell's membrane, is in contact with these foreign proteins, there is an interaction with the T helper cells, which trigger them to produce cytokines (interleukins) and memory cells.
The interleukins attract B-cells that produce plasma cells, which act to produce antibodies with a molecular memory that will bind on the actual SARS-2-CoV virus's Spike Protein.
Whenever the actual SARS-2-CoV virus's Spike Protein is present from that time on, that binding function neutralizes the SARS-2-CoV virus's Spike Protein and destroys the ability of the SARS-2-CoV virus to attach to and use a host cell in order to replicate the virus.
It is not known how long these specially programmed antibodies stay in the body. The memory cells, however, will produce T-cells that are programmed to produce antibodies that will also attack any future SARS-2-CoV virus's Spike Proteins that enter the body. The biomemory program of these antibodies will last a long time.
Proteins on the host MHC-2 complex molecule attract cytoxic T-cells that release destructive molecules that *destroy future host cells that are infected by the COVID-19 virus.*
As you read this explanation, you discover that the Messenger RNA ["mRNA"] of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, is an effective way to train antibodies to target the SARS-2-CoV virus Spike Proteins.
The actual SARS-2-CoV virus's Spike Proteins are the vehicle (by attaching to a cell's ACE2 receptors), that allows the SARS-2-CoV virus's mRNA to enter the cell and do *nearly* the exact same thing that the Messenger RNA ["mRNA"] of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines does.
BUT, in that case of the actual SARS-2-CoV virus itself, instead of *only* manufacturing the Spike Protein (the purpose of the vaccines), the actual SARS-2-CoV virus mRNA causes the RIBOSOMES to manufacture the entire virus.
And that hijacking of this TRANSLATION process causes hundreds of SARS-2-CoV viruses to erupt out of the host cell . . . which will go out to new cells and create the chain reaction which leads to the death causing Cytokine Storm.
By the way, the SARS-2-CoV virus, using the same propagating process of the RIBOSOMES, does not cause any DNA manipulation. [Last I heard. YMMV]
Q-tard anti-vaxxers would rather see you choking out your last breath on a ventilator tube as they spread their fear porn of needles than admit vaccines work.
I spit on them
“Younger People Are More Likely to Experience Side Effects”
Above from your linked article. It is good to be over age 80. That may explain why I had few side effects. And no more tooth aches. The nerves inside teeth are pretty much dead by now. But seriously, my good health with zero need for medications can be attributed to daily 30 minute exercise, you can watch this 30 second clip..
https://youtube.com/watch?v=I55ZxIwbuOU
Wow
Four lies in one sentence. You are quite efficient at spreading falsehoods. That is a particularly impressive mark for a flat earther. And it tells lies in multiple disciplines, biology, immunology, religion and chemistry.
This is a tour d’force of fear porn and ignorance. Congratulations on being the best at complete and totally unmitigated lies. Bravo!
If they are, the pandemic will assuredly end. And the powers-that-be don't want it to ever end - they love it.
It’s extra special when someone gets splattered by a train but, but got vaccinated 2 weeks ago.
Another vaccine death..........
Speaking only for myself, I would not *yet* get the shot; meaning, I would not be in any hurry to the shot.
Having had COVID-19 (high probability), I can wait.
See my reply 25; it is a long read, but worth your study. Within, you will find, re your immune system memory:
“It is not known how long these specially programmed antibodies stay in the body. The memory cells, however, will produce T-cells that are programmed to produce antibodies that will also attack any future SARS-2-CoV virus’s Spike Proteins that enter the body. The biomemory program of these antibodies will last a long time.”
I forgot to add that they’re not even going to try to give him the second shot. It may kill him.
Not to mention constipation, ear lobe growth, and egg laying.........
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
Daily exercise. Anything, at least. I am a believer, and thanks.
Sometime around year 2003? I met a fellow at an auto parts store, who seemed very young “for his age.” I asked him.
He replied that he was a farmer, age 93. I thought he was maybe 70.
An old friend of mine, would drive each year from Colorado, to Ohio, to stay with family members, for an event related to the Indianapolis 500. His last road trip, age 93.
One of sons, in his early 50’s had a total butt kicking response to his first shot.
We/I believe that he had the ChiCom Flu after the Christmas before we knew about the ChiCom flu. He lost about 30+ lbs, lost his appetite, sense of smell and many other possible signs of the ChiCom Flu. He missed more work in that following January than his previous 15 years with the company he works for.
In-laws are both 78. MiL was positive in December and “had a bad cold” for two weeks. She had second Moderna shot two weeks ago without incident. FiL had it at same time with stronger symptoms for about a week and had an infusion as he had breathing difficulties. He couldn’t take either vaccine for 90 days after the infusion and doesn’t want to. He may be open to taking a single dose or the J&J.
Correct. The immunity from actually having the disease is much stronger than anything a vaccine can give.
While general medical info that we typically find/read, presents notions of what we have in common, re our human immune system, it seems that we are learning, now, that there is something more unique per individual.
True!
I actually administer the vaccine to people and I question the logic of getting the vaccine if you have had the virus
But their primary care physicians have told them to do it so they do it and who am I to argue with multiple doctors?
It does seem like the people who previously had Covid and then went on to get the Moderna vaccine have a much more robust immune response than those who didn't.
I haven't heard of anyone locally dying from this more robust reaction.
We have delivered over 100 million doses in the United States alone. That's a lot of doses. There's a lot of genetic variability in a group that large. I'm wondering if what there aren't some individuals with subtle genetic mutations that respond to this virus and vaccine differently than the rest of us.
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