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Mars Is A Hell Hole
The Atlantic ^ | 26/2/21 | Shannon Stirone

Posted on 03/04/2021 1:49:22 PM PST by Eleutheria5

There’s no place like home—unless you’re Elon Musk. A prototype of SpaceX’s Starship, which may someday send humans to Mars, is, according to Musk, likely to launch soon, possibly within the coming days. But what motivates Musk? Why bother with Mars? A video clip from an interview Musk gave in 2019 seems to sum up Musk’s vision—and everything that’s wrong with it.

....Sagan believed that if we had a photo of ourselves from this distance, it would forever alter our perspective of our place in the cosmos.

But there Musk cuts himself off and begins to laugh. He says with incredulity, “This is not true. This is false––Mars.”

He couldn’t be more wrong. Mars? Mars is a hellhole. The central thing about Mars is that it is not Earth, not even close. In fact, the only things our planet and Mars really have in common is that both are rocky planets with some water ice and both have robots (and Mars doesn’t even have that many).

Mars has a very thin atmosphere; it has no magnetic field to help protect its surface from radiation from the sun or galactic cosmic rays; it has no breathable air and the average surface temperature is a deadly 80 degrees below zero. Musk thinks that Mars is like Earth? For humans to live there in any capacity they would need to build tunnels and live underground, and what is not enticing about living in a tunnel lined with SAD lamps and trying to grow lettuce with UV lights? So long to deep breaths outside and walks without the security of a bulky spacesuit, knowing that if you’re out on an extravehicular activity and something happens, you’ve got an excruciatingly painful 60-second death waiting for you.....

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


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Aristophanes wrote a play called The Birds, in which some Athenians, fed up with the ills of their society, ask the birds to guide them to a better place. They finally find one, Nephrolokokkugia (cloud kukkoo land), that is so rarified even the birds can't live there. They end up coming back down to earth, to improve their own place in the world, Athens, as much as is feasible.
1 posted on 03/04/2021 1:49:22 PM PST by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5

Ain’t the kind of place to raise your kids.


2 posted on 03/04/2021 1:52:45 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET (I like him-he reminds me of the late Joe tex. )
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To: Eleutheria5
Mars Is A Hell Hole

We knew this already because Elton John told us.

Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids
In fact it's cold as hell
And there's no one there to raise them
If you did

3 posted on 03/04/2021 1:53:03 PM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Eleutheria5

No one is asking her to go so why does she care? Also, she never heard of terra forming?


4 posted on 03/04/2021 1:53:20 PM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.d)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

That was quick.


5 posted on 03/04/2021 1:53:49 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
18 SECONDS!
6 posted on 03/04/2021 1:54:03 PM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Eleutheria5


Blue sky on Mars. That's a new one!
7 posted on 03/04/2021 1:54:05 PM PST by z3n
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To: DIRTYSECRET

... In fact it’s cold as hell...


8 posted on 03/04/2021 1:56:08 PM PST by Bullish (CNN is what happens when 8th graders run a cable network.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Well, there is no one there to raise them...if you did.


9 posted on 03/04/2021 1:57:19 PM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: Eleutheria5
Possibilities:
10 posted on 03/04/2021 1:57:36 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Eleutheria5

One of these fools who thinks that the money is better spent down the endless black hole of social programs than research and exploration. She’d be doing her laundry by hand and dead by 40 if all her ancestors had her opinion.


11 posted on 03/04/2021 1:58:35 PM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL)
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I don’t think the Moon or Mars are optimal, to put it mildly.

The problem as I see it, is that this old earth is being overrun
by people too stupid to co-exist with. Some of them hold positions
of power, and are intent on denying basic human rights in short
order.

So the issue becomes, stay here and have your life taken from you
in real terms, or go somewhere else and eek out an existence
in real terms.

For me, eeking out an existence outranks living under no rights at all.

Humans have an uncanny ability to come up with solutions to seemingly
un-surmountable problems.

At some point, humans will inhabit other planets.

We might just as well get on with it.

Leave the Leftists to their paradise.

Once they kill each other, we could come back.


12 posted on 03/04/2021 1:59:09 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The Republican Party is dead. Long live the Founders Party.)
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To: Eleutheria5
Mars is a hellhole. The central thing about Mars is that it is not Earth, not even close.

Mars doesn't have authoritarian Leftists trying to tell me what I can't read, can't say and can't think. So there's definitely a plus side.
13 posted on 03/04/2021 1:59:22 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Rummyfan

Why go to Mars? Because it’s there. And he can.


14 posted on 03/04/2021 1:59:29 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Eleutheria5

So is Baltimore.


15 posted on 03/04/2021 1:59:59 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Hell hole? Then there must be someway that hunter or joe’s brothers can make a few bucks off of it then.


16 posted on 03/04/2021 2:00:41 PM PST by farmguy
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To: Eleutheria5

Larry Niven described Mars as “the junk heap of the system” fifty years ago. Nothing there worth the trouble of dropping down into that gravity well.


17 posted on 03/04/2021 2:00:51 PM PST by Chad C. Mulligan (Proud Deplorable Neanderthal)
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To: DannyTN

18 posted on 03/04/2021 2:02:48 PM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: Yo-Yo

“Mars ain’t the kind of place to raise your kids
In fact it’s cold as hell
And there’s no one there to raise them
If you did”

is that lyrics in Rocket Man ?


19 posted on 03/04/2021 2:02:59 PM PST by George from New England
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To: Eleutheria5

One thing about Mars, in exploring space. We could have a point for the mnext step on this side of the astetoid field between Mars and Jupiter, where we could take the polar flights to ‘pole vault’ that field. Possibly, we could inhabit the LaGrange Point between Earth and Mars.

But, if you think ‘Mars is hell’, which other planet would you suggest?


20 posted on 03/04/2021 2:04:32 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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