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The COVID death data fraud: You can't imagine the number of death certificates that are being fraudulently tallied in this current pandemic.
American Thinker ^ | 03/03/2021 | Dennis McGowan

Posted on 03/03/2021 6:50:37 AM PST by SeekAndFind

I've had enough. The media continue to report what they consider the death toll from the Wuhan virus, despite the fact that it is fiction and defies basic tenets of scientific integrity. Back in October, Senator Hirono repeated, again, the "over 200,000" deaths statistic. This is a lie. I'll explain why, but first let me tell you what qualifies me to know it's a lie.

From 1964 to 1970, in high school and college, I worked as an autopsy assistant at St. Vincent's Hospital on 12th Street in New York City, a few blocks from my own address on 14th. After getting married and moving a few times, I went to work in the Medical Examiner's Office in Freehold, N.J., both as a tech and an in-house investigator dealing with forensic cases. From there I went to the State Medical Examiner's Office in Newark supervising several disciplines.

Finally, in 1992, I was hired as the chief investigator for the Medical Examiner's Office in Fulton County, Georgia, in the city of Atlanta. Along the way, I taught many classes in death investigation and served in several posts within the federal team that responded to mass fatalities.

Over the 30+ years that I spent managing aspects of death investigation, I was always determined to uncover every piece of information that would lead to the filing of an accurate death certificate. That brings me to the big lie. Death certificates are pretty uniform in their structure, and they call for strict accuracy in listing the relevant details. There are five critical lines on a death certificate, each having its own contribution to the final conclusion.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: covid19; deathrate; fraud
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To: SeekAndFind
Last year, when the publicly advertised number hit 200,000, there was speculation that the actual number could be as low as 10 or 12 thousand.

Speculation by who, exactly?

21 posted on 03/03/2021 7:17:51 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There must be bodies everywhere.


22 posted on 03/03/2021 7:19:09 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”g)
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To: SeekAndFind

And the media jumps on ANY mention of Covid on a death certificate. My husband got a call from Oregonian “reporter” wanting to talk about his mother’s death from covid...it was the 3rd item on her death certificate. He declined.


23 posted on 03/03/2021 7:19:25 AM PST by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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To: tflabo

It is very difficult to believe or trust the medical/pharmacological industry these days. I am old enough to remember the furor over thalidomide and Phen Fen(sp?). I see the ads asking whether I have been injured or died (lol) from this or that product or medicine. I have seen the Disease du jour like asthma, now diabetes run though the country where every treatment involves drugs, drugs and more drugs rather than lifestyle changes. I have been pressured to take expensive vaccines for essentially inconvenient but non-life threatening conditions. I am also old enough to remember polio victims and I lost part of my hearing due to measles so I am not anti-vax by a long shot but I am skeptical especially where large amounts of my money are involved.


24 posted on 03/03/2021 7:40:10 AM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: zeestephen
The data for my Comment #20 is very hard to find.

This comes from the National Center for Health Statistics...

(1) https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

(2) Scroll almost to bottom of the page to the chart for "Pneumonia, Influenza, and COVID-19 Mortality."

(3) Directly below that PIC chart, click on "View Chart Data."

(4) On my computer, that opens an Excel chart.

(5) There is no direct link to this Excel chart that I can find on the CDC website.

(6) Total deaths for 2020 are in Column G.

(7) Please note that 2020 records 53 weeks. 2018 and 2019 record only 52 weeks. I compared only the first 52 weeks in 2020 to the other two years.

25 posted on 03/03/2021 7:41:12 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: SeekAndFind

One so often hears that death is from “complications of” a condition, as opposed to the condition itself. Being a cynic, I figure the death is often a result of the treatment, but is disguised a bit to “keep things in order.”


26 posted on 03/03/2021 7:51:51 AM PST by gloryblaze
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To: SeekAndFind

I know first hand that any death whereby the deceased tests positive it’s attributed so state and local gets the federal money

No question

These death rates are laughable


27 posted on 03/03/2021 7:53:18 AM PST by wardaddy (P IN 1999 JIM THOMPSON WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE BUSHES ...WE WERE WRONG)
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To: SeekAndFind

How many VA family benefits are lost when a veteran death is recorded as Covid instead of something duty related like Agent Orange related conditions as specified by th VA.


28 posted on 03/03/2021 8:00:49 AM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: BluH2o

You’re ruining a perfectly engineered crisis with annoying facts. Please stick to the mind control propaganda program of “Covid” being the most deadly, communicable and racist “disease” in the history of the world.

Signed,

Your trustworthy Dr. Fauci.


29 posted on 03/03/2021 8:05:59 AM PST by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: SeekAndFind
"This line is followed by three more, all labeled “Due To,” where contributors to the immediate cause, in declining order, are listed."

Well this is just wrong. And it's why the rest of the article is stupid and wrong too. Section 32 Part I lists the SEQUENCE of events that exist in the chain of events leading directly to death. It's a SEQUENCE, not a list in order of severity. Notice on the right side of Part I there's an "interval" area. They want to know the sequence of events that happened and how quickly things moved between events leading to death.

Here is a US Standard Certificate of Death. Look for yourself. Author is an uninformed idiot publishing fake news.

* if COVID appears anywhere on a death certificate, it is counted as a COVID death, even if it isn’t.

No, they didn't. Here is the Guidance for Certifying Deaths Due to COVID–19. Read it for yourself. It's only a few pages and it's written in plain English. It says nothing about classifying everything as COVID-19. It does say that any diagnosis of COVID-19 should be confirmed with laboratory testing and it says that the cause of death statement "a cause-of-death statement is an informed medical opinion that should be based on sound medical judgment drawn from clinical training and experience, as well as knowledge of current disease states and local trends". NOWHERE does it state that every death is COVID-19. NOWHERE does it state that COVID-19 should just be assumed or that anyone who tests positive is a COVID-19 death. If this were happening, we would see a drop in death rates for cancer, heart attacks, etc. But all those numbers are at or above normal levels. They're being classified correctly. We just have a lot of excess deaths.

"An example is the fellow who crashed his motorcycle and tested positive for COVID."

Somebody screwed up and the mistake was corrected. It happened months ago. It was one case. Out of over 500,000. This article is written by someone who is completely ignorant of the facts and is pushing an agenda.

30 posted on 03/03/2021 8:48:23 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Did George Floyd die of Covid?

No, he was shot, according to a few newspapers.

He was strangled by the cop.

OK, he killed himself with an OD that caused him to choke to death, but the cop still got blamed.

31 posted on 03/03/2021 8:48:50 AM PST by USS Alaska (NUKE ALL MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS, NOW.)
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To: BluH2o

Sorry, but your numbers are wrong. Probably why you didn’t include sources, right? Because then people could check for themselves?

Number of deaths in the US in 2018: 2,839,205 (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm)
Number of deaths in the US in 2019: 2,854,838 (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db395.htm)
Number of deaths in the US in 2020: 3,358,549 (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm - Preliminary but still rising)

503,711 additional deaths in 2020 over 2019. A 17.6% difference. A normal year-over-year difference is 0.3-0.7%. This is 35 times higher than normal.


32 posted on 03/03/2021 8:51:43 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: zeestephen
If the 2020 Total Death number is correct, we definitely need a medical explanation for that.

2019 is still not official and that time has past 15 months ago.

Second, these numbers are all estimates based on statistics, and the gummint manipulates numbers to suit whatever liberal agenda is the cause of the day.

All covid numbers are pure bullshit.

33 posted on 03/03/2021 8:54:26 AM PST by USS Alaska (NUKE ALL MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS, NOW.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Informed consent is impossible.


34 posted on 03/03/2021 9:15:00 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: mewzilla

Holy crap...

Could THIS be what Cuomo’s hiding...?!


35 posted on 03/03/2021 9:15:51 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
This is 35 times higher than normal.

Just a few months ago based on 3 years prior years numbers they predicted the number very close to normal. Now that the knew how many to shoot for with the 500k number, they pulled a middle of the night number drop not unlike swing state vote padding after they found out how many they needed. Strange that. Seems to be getting a habit.

36 posted on 03/03/2021 9:29:25 AM PST by redcatcherb412
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To: SeekAndFind

What state made the most money off of them?.


37 posted on 03/03/2021 9:34:52 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: redcatcherb412
"Just a few months ago based on 3 years prior years numbers they predicted the number very close to normal."

Who is "they"? Because CDC was tracking excess deaths all year long and that total was rising steadily all year long. It was over 300,000 in August. The CDC dashboards are updated constantly. I can pull up old screenshots from throughout 2020 if you like demonstrating that they showed excess deaths beyond the normal numbers all through 2020 starting in March and April.

Whoever your "they" is here was uninformed.

"Now that the knew how many to shoot for with the 500k number, they pulled a middle of the night number drop"

I don't think you understand where those numbers come from. They come from the individual reporting jurisdictions. The total is just what you get when you add up all those reported numbers. The individual reporting jurisdictions are all over the country; in both red and blue areas. If CDC created an incorrect total, the numbers wouldn't add up. If they started altering the numbers reported by the individual jurisdictions, that would be easily caught as well.

The numbers from the individual reporting jurisdictions are - in turn - based on death certificates filled out by doctors. There are a million doctors in the US. All different political and ideological stances. They haven't all conspired together to create fake dead people. Doing so would require that they put their medical licenses, careers, and personal freedom on the line. And for what personal gain? None. The hospital gets a small extra payment to cover costs associated with treating COVID-19 patients, but that payment amounts to about 2% of total hospital revenues.

Are you saying you would be okay with committing fraud if your employer told you they wanted a 2% revenue increase? No? Yeah, most doctors wouldn't be okay with it either.

38 posted on 03/03/2021 9:37:59 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: mewzilla

No, Cuomo is hiding the number of people who died directly as a result of his policy forcing nursing homes to accept known-infected COVID-19 patients.

He’s trying to avoid being put on trial for tens of thousands of criminally negligent homicides.


39 posted on 03/03/2021 9:39:28 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: redcatcherb412

From the start I have felt that this Chirona thing was a ploy. From the data being fed downline to us I know it is a hoax. Total BS. When the powers that be cannot even get their numbers straight or consistent I know they are lying.

This so-called death total is another number that I feel is BS. How many double counts are being used to beef up their numbers?

Believing anything that comes from the gooberment these days is suspect. Every one of those numbers is stated to back up their hoax.


40 posted on 03/03/2021 9:41:37 AM PST by JayAr36 (My disgust with government is complete.)
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