Posted on 03/03/2021 3:03:40 AM PST by SecAmndmt
Regular antibody test? I assume so. T Cells are the long term immunity. There is a test for them. It is pretty safe to assume given her immune response she is teeming with them. There is a T Cell test that can be had. Your MIL is right to be nervous about taking the vaccine when she has natural immunity and had a very robust immune response to the getting Covid. If I were her, I would lean towards the J&J one if I took any at all. The 2 shot version with its challenge, response model for someone with natural immunity seems to be asking for problems. See the comment upthread about the posters experience as a shot provider. The ones who get sick from the vaccine had Covid before.
https://lozierinstitute.org/update-covid-19-vaccine-candidates-and-abortion-derived-cell-lines/
J&J uses the PER C6, human embryonic retinal cells
Thank you. That was my reasoning as well. One of my daughters is due for her 2nd Pfizer. Gonna see if I can talk her into getting abs checked first :)
Humans are in charge.
They’ve been proven time and again to not need satan to destroy untold lives
Growing the adenovirus to produce the vaccine requires cells. Scientists use fetal cell lines to grow the adenovirus because those type of cell lines rapidly replicate outside the human body. Experts say that by the time the adenovirus goes in the vial, the cells from the fetal cell lines have been rigorously filtered out.
“Once the virus particles are made from those cells, there are processes of filtration to try and purify what’s going to be in the vial, so it’s unlikely that there are going to be any cell remnants that passed through that filtering process, that purification process,” said Adalja.
So we can Verify: Fetal cell lines were used to manufacture and develop the Johnson and Johnson COVID-19 vaccine.
Lacasse says fetal cell lines were also used to produce the hepatitis A, rubella, chickenpox, and shingles vaccines.
There are STILL “covid cowards” on this board?
wow.
None are in the vaccine...“Once the virus particles are made from those cells, there are processes of filtration to purify what’s going to be in the vial, so it’s unlikely that there are going to be any cell remnants that passed through that filtering process, that purification process,”
Cell lines were also used with other vaccines like chicken pox.
I don’t oppose a vaccine.....I oppose being a test case for an untested vaccine.
They will blame President Trump. Just you watch.
I hadn’t thought of that. Diabolical plot masters.
Weird. After my pfizer vaccine I grew a third arm. But it is useful...
Over 650 have died from the vaccine here already which seems to attack the heart and lungs in certain people. Thousands have been disabled since this is not even a real vaccine and is a manmade combination for a disease that is not that dangerous.
Of course there is no turning back after dying from covid either
Then why aren’t all docs are recommending vaccination to their patients?
“You do understand that this article is telling the truth from their research.”
No. An implied result is not a factual result. Even the data they do report does not translate into what they imply from it.
As I said, they conflate “adverse incident” with “death”, though the two things are not the same, and they conflate every actual death with “vaccine caused death” when in most every case the evidence does not point to the vaccine, but to pre-existing severe medical conditions.
Every one I know is. My entire extended family (all those eligible) have been vaccinated. However there is a wide variety of education and practice styles among “docs” out there and there are individual circumstances. For instance if you have had proven covid ( test or antibody positive) I would wait 6 months or so and see what shakes out - it may be you only need one dose or may not need the vaccine at all. But for the vast majority of people I recommend the vaccine as does every practicing physician I know - and i know a lot of practicing physicians
I have to be very careful what I say here, but no, not all docs are recommending vaccination.
Even to older, higher risk patients.
Some say don’t. Some say hold off a bit longer.
BTW, it’s amazing what you hear when you’re not in an office setting.
And that is both sad and freaking infuriating.
“Not one incident where it was shown the vaccine caused the death.”
You’re right. That would involve TRIALS, which never happened.
Why the loving HELL would any young and healthy person take thia vaccine orher than irrational fear or cool virtue points!?!?
Because in Israel everyone has a new Yellow Passport that identifies those who are unvaccinated. The unvaccinated are third class citizens and cannot go to any public buildings. The malls, restaurants, theaters and clubs are open to the vaccinated.
Covid is overblown. Way overblown to try and force an experimental vaccine on the masses. And they will coerce it. Just wait.
People are made to be petrified. I have seen the flu wipe out half a nursing home and we never had a crazy reaction like this.
Anything coming from our politicized medicine in America needs to be scrutinized and questioned as to who gains.
Medical care at the grass roots has become pathetic. Pill pushers sitting behind a computer asking the government what they can do for a patient. Sorry, I an 68 years old and i used to have wonderful patient centered doctors. This Obamacare thing is a hot mess.
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