Posted on 02/18/2021 8:53:55 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Following a flurry of data suggesting the first generation of COVID vaccines may not be as effective against certain COVID mutations, particularly a mutant strain first identified in South Africa, new "research" is suggesting patients may not even need a second dose of Pfizer's COVID-19 jab - or at least it could be delayed "in order to cover all priority groups as the first one is highly protective," according to two Canada-based researchers, who made the statement in a letter published in the New England Journal of Medicine.
Even so, new lab study has just been released Thursday suggesting that the Pfizer-BioNTech jab "stimulated lower levels of neutralizing antibodies" against the SA mutant, and that the variant could reduce the efficacy of the jab by as much as two-thirds.
All of this comes as the UN turns up the pressure on its push for a global vaccination program, via the WHO and its Covax initiative, presumably.
But according to the doctors writing in the NEJM, the Pfizer jab had an efficacy of 92.6% after the first dose, Danuta Skowronski and Gaston De Serres said, based on an analysis of the documents submitted by the drugmaker to the FDA.
Pfizer responded by saying alternative dosing regimens of the vaccine had not been evaluated yet and that the decision resided with the health authorities. As one might imagine, there are "differences of opinion" as to what should be done, as some experts claim that the efficacy data so far is enough to justify a "flexible" dosing schedule. We guess sometimes "the science" isn't always conclusive. In their letter, the doctors mentioned above the efficacy data would justify second-jab delays to increase supplies. Meanwhile, another group of doctors wrote into th NEJM to share more results showing the Moderna jab is also less effective against the South African variant.
As supplies of the vaccines remain stretched incredibly thin worldwide, the EU earlier this week clinched a deal for hundreds of millions more doses of the Pfzier and Moderna jabs. But even in the US, officials are looking for reasons to allow a delay in the second "booster" jab, as politicians like Joe Biden scramble to meet their promises on vaccination numbers.
Even the US CDC, which warned Britain against experimenting with intervals weeks ago, is now considering offering the exact opposite advice.
Meanwhile, vaccinemakers are already developing next-gen shots that they say will offer more protection against the COVID-19 variants.
Cant we just be happy and wear masks? This is just needless harassment against biden
If more masks are good, then more shots are better.
I don’t know.....maybe 15.
They’ve got us chasing our collective tail, don’t they?
Viral whack-a-mole.
Fight back, people. DISOBEY at every opportunity, starting with the mask.
Both the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines have been shown to be fully effective against all known SARS-CoV-2 variants, including the South African one.
The insinuation that they aren’t effective is fearmongering nonsense.
“But according to the doctors writing in the NEJM, the Pfizer jab had an efficacy of 92.6% after the first dose, Danuta Skowronski and Gaston De Serres said, based on an analysis of the documents submitted by the drugmaker to the FDA.”
all a cash grab
Pfizer sells 1st and 2nd china virus shots at $20 a dose
booster shots for these new variants: $150-175 a dose
Pfizer and greedy big pharma are seeing the long-term revenue stream
Low levels of neutralizing antibodies plus variant that shows a degree of immunity to neutralizing antibodies produced by vaccine equals recipe for antibody dependent enhancement. This very close to what we see with dengue fever virus which has 4 variants. the first case of Dengue is usually the most mild form of the disease. The second time you get it, it is frequently the most deadly form of the disease and this is linked to A) decreased neutralizing antibodies and B) coming into contact with one of the different variants the second time.
So, China is right. It is the American virus.
Glad I could help, by staying out of any line.
Let’s not forget that the NEJM I beleive (someone correct me if I’m wrong) it was emphatically poo pood hcq claiming it was too dangerous to take while Trump was in office. They were responsible for many many 1000s of deaths as a result if it was them.
Engrish preeze. What does that mean for the vaccine? Taking it once will create resistant virus? Or a body becomes resistant to the second dose? Don’t quite understand what it implies?
Again? Didn’t our tax 💰 already show up therein obxxx?
Waiter...can I have another serving of the bat soup?
: )
Worker at CHYNA town casino yesterday asked me to put my mask over my nose as I was processing a cashout. I said, “Thanks for saving my life”
He said, “I’m just doing what I’m told to do...just doing my job”
I said, “Hitler’s guys said that too” (and walked away with my cash)
Quercetin/Zinc combo
OptiMSM from Jarrow - heaped teaspoon morning and evening (bought in the bulk 2.2lb size) and taken with ascorbate form of Vit C
Magnesium Ascorbate (C) - by NOW Foods 8oz powder
Sodium Ascorbate (C) - by NOW Foods 8oz powder
Vitamins D and K
Take those Cov vaccinations and stick ‘em!
Dengue seems like kind of a breakthrough in our understanding of this phenomena.
When Dengue antibody levels fall to a certain range, the individual becomes 7.6x more likely to contract a more severe case of Dengue because A) they don't interact strongly/appropriately with the other viral phenotypes and (possibly) B) there may have been enough "good" antibodies developed in the initial exposure to fight off one of the other 3 Dengue phenotypes, but as time went on, they vanished.
This is relevant to this topic because we're talking about jabbing people once, not twice, which has been shown to not develop high levels of neutralizing antibodies (per the article) and then having them potentially come into contact with a different variant that has shown some degree of immunity to the antibodies generated from the original Covid variant.
Is this exactly the same as Dengue? No. is it close? yeah. It seems really close in fact. it may even be worse since the Covid vaccine is likely much more epitope specific than immunity via natural infection. The epitope is the place where the antibody binds to the virus. But, what's more, people who developed mild Covid initially seem like they would also have unpredictable levels of neutralizing antibodioes and may also be at risk.
Having higher levels of neutralizing antibodies seems like a better thing than lower levels unless someone can show me differently which is also possible.
Except there’s a 94-95% chance that it will make you immune.
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