Southern Confederate Hegelians and Marxists

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[ProgressingAmerica]

I'm going out of my comfort zone on this one but the article in The Federalist glossed over this and I couldn't let it go.

[ProgressingAmerica]

Were you aware of this?

[RushIsMyTeddyBear]

Bkmrk

[Seruzawa]

Hegel, Kant, Sneezchie, Marx. These men were moochers who lived on the nickels of others. Their “philosophies” lead to the most brutally and senselessly murderous era in human history. And it’s not over yet as pedo-Joe tosses China’s oppressed minorities under the bus.

[Fred Hayek]

Immanuel Kant was a real pissant who was very rarely stable.

[Seruzawa]

Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
Who could think you under the table

[circlecity]

The Hegelian philosophy of thesis-antithesis-synthesis is the foundation for postmodern relativism. It essentially denies the existence of objective reality.

[blueunicorn6]

I blame this on Snooki and her new TV show.

[Migraine]

I hope no one is looking for philosophical consistency in the slave-holding South in the 19th century. Those fellows had huge swaths of conscience cauterized. Hard to make all the philosophical pieces fit together in that condition.

[bk1000]

“ We’re led to believe by Civil War buffs and professional historians alike that the Confederacy was this pinnacle of conservative thought or at least deeply conservative in its outlook.”

Philosophy isn’t my thing, but this sounds like BS to me.

[RedStateRocker]

Both Marx and Hegel had interesting analysis and terrible prescriptions.

[RedStateRocker]

What I find funny is the people who wish to claim both the mantel of the Confederacy AND that of Lincoln.

[icclearly]

What a waste of digital bytes in writing this.

That war was very similar to today. That is, two sides could not get along. There were many reasons for that war but, of course, slavery gets the wrap for the whole thing — which is, of course, fake news.

The book Albion’s Seed (http://bit.ly/2Ir3J3M) explains the social and “lifeway” divide that existed in this country which traced its roots back to the mother country. They did not get along in the mother country and, for the most part, they brought it here when they arrived on these shores 400 years ago.

That divide was with us and building up to 1861. And, it did not end in 1865, either.

[jmacusa]

Who wrote this garbage?

[Brass Lamp]

You'll be truly comforted to know that Lincoln was quite an admirer of Marx's and courted the domestic communist movement. He was so supportive of the struggles of his fellow travelers that he practically drafted the whole of North America's share of the ‘48er diaspora into the Union army and head-hunted officers of the failed revolution for direct appointment into leading positions in his officer corps. He enjoined the unanimous support of self-declared communists the world over and communist histories never fail to endorse him. Perhaps, since you claimed to have studied, you know of a communist historical treatment which takes the side against him.

[who_would_fardels_bear]

I dont know how widespread belief or even knowledge of Hegelian thought was in The South, but it seems the ideas mentioned are little different from the concept of "white man's burden" or the attempts at civilizing the natives that missionaries engaged in when getting tribesmen to wear clothes and sing Christian hymns.

Accusing southerners of being closet commies is a stretch. It seems more like they used Hegel to aid in their rationalization of slavery.

[odawg]

“Just how deep did the rejection of the Founding Fathers go with those in the south in the 1800s?”

Rejection? Plenty of the Founding Fathers were Southerners. And Southerners in the 1800s took the Founders at their word, especially the Declaration of Independence.

[Bull Snipe]

And he crushed the Southern Confederacy into extinction.

[larrytown]

The issue is how on earth do we arrive at a place where the southern confederacy is constantly cast as a bastion of conservatism when deep examinations of their ideological works unearths collectivism, Marxism, and Hegelianism?

Nonsense. Their 'ideological works' were primarily to protect, maintain and extend the institution of chattel slavery. Any and every resource possible to further that goal would have been used - including trendy German philosophers.

[Brass Lamp]

So, no denial of his involvement in communism? So, you’ve learned to not even bother.