Posted on 02/08/2021 5:07:37 AM PST by MtnClimber
As the doctor/researcher testified to the U.S. Senate in 2020 (the video of which was recently banned by Google's YouTube): "If you take Ivermectin you won't get sick!" He did not say you won't get the virus". There's the difference, you see.
Thanks.
As the doctor/researcher testified to the U.S. Senate in 2020 (the video of which was recently banned by Google’s YouTube): “If you take Ivermectin you won’t get sick!” He did not say you won’t get the virus”. There’s the difference, you see.
As the drug companies...and, even Fraudci have admitted.....even if you take the experimental agents, by Moderna and Phizer and J&J, you can STILL get the virus!
What they’re NOT telling you is just how sick it can make you, at that time.
A HUGE difference, indeed.
Fauci knew in 2005 a potential Coronavirus treatment existed. Yet did NIH not continue study of efficacy? 15 years later here we are? Nobody could have seen this coming? Google this and it’s now a invalidated conspiracy theory suggested by nut jobs.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/
“Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread.” , “We report...that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage.”
You do know every one of those vaccines in the nice chart produced a “sterilizing” immunity. One could not be reinfected once inoculated. Big difference now.
In contrast, it is unknown if covid mRNA vaccines provide this immunity. Having to wear mask after inoculation suggest not. If covid can reinfect with limited symptoms, it will never stop being an endemic infection. this is playing Russian roulette waiting for a stronger deadlier virus to emerge.
Then what?
Sterilizing immunity is typically a function of the presence of neutralizing antibodies. The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines trigger an immune response resulting in several times more neutralizing antibodies than a COVID-19 infection; particularly a mild one. Ergo, while it has not been specifically tested thus far, all indications are that this is a sterilizing immunity.
"Having to wear mask after inoculation suggest not."
It doesn't suggest anything of the sort. First, there's no way to track who has actually been vaccinated and who hasn't when people are simply milling about in public. So simply asking everyone to wear a mask in indoor public places - regardless of their vaccination status - makes sense in the short term. Second, without verifiable data about sterilizing immunity, it's worth continuing to wear a mask in indoor public places for the short term until we either establish the level of effectiveness of the vaccines against becoming an asymptomatic carrier or until enough of the public is vaccinated that it no longer matters.
Either way, this whole thing will be over and done with this summer. This is exactly why Biden has already shifted to "climate change".
"If covid can reinfect with limited symptoms, it will never stop being an endemic infection. this is playing Russian roulette waiting for a stronger deadlier virus to emerge. Then what?"
Over 200 vaccine candidates are in various stages of trials. If - by some bizarre circumstance - the two authorized vaccines don't produce sterilizing immunity despite their extremely strong neutralizing antibody response, we'll just have to keep trying others until we find something that works. For now, keeping people out of the hospital or the morgue is a really nice benefit to the vaccines already available.
Sure about sterilizing immunity?
“FACT: Individuals who get the COVID-19 vaccination still need to practice infection prevention precautions. Keep your mask on, and continue staying at least 6 feet from people outside your household, until further notice. Vaccines do not stop the coronavirus from entering your body; they only prevent you from developing moderate to severe COVID-19. It’s not yet clear if people vaccinated for COVID-19 can still carry and transmit the virus, even when they themselves don’t get sick.“
So many unknowns about these experimental shots.
I literally just said it hasn't been tested yet. Did you read what I posted?
But since sterilizing immunity is generally a function of neutralizing antibodies, and since the two authorized vaccines produce massive numbers of neutralizing antibodies, it's a pretty safe bet. Sure? Not until we have studies and data. Confident? Absolutely.
This fearmongering is no better than the fearmongering claims that these rewrite your DNA or install Bill Gates microchips in you or are mind control devices created with DNA from space aliens. It's all just there to try and scare people into changing their decision about what's best for their own health and wellbeing. And it's wrong.
Governments can’t have anything get in the way of their CovidControl.
Covid is about POWER.
Nothing else.
1st thing I said is it is unknown if the mRNA vaccines provide sterilizing immunity.
That is fearmongering? I think it’s a legitimate concern
- all things considered.
1st thing I said is it is unknown if the mRNA vaccines provide sterilizing immunity.
I think it’s a legitimate concern
- all things considered.
I agree. Extremely legitimate.
To call it fearmongering is using tactics of the left.
Just consider that, and, ignore any such attacks.
That’s absolutely a legitimate question to ask. 100%. Not to imply or suggest the vaccines DON’T provide sterilizing immunity, but to point out that it hasn’t yet been confirmed? Sure, I agree that’s totally valid.
We need new studies to know one way or the other. From what we can see in the levels of neutralizing antibodies, there should be no reason for vaccination failing to provide sterilizing immunity, but there’s no confirmation yet.
And it won’t be because of the vaccine if they decide to let us out of house arrest.
IOW, We need new studies to know throw more money at to pretend we’ll know one way or another.
Interesting that all of the solutions the left offers involve making lots of government money.
If you don’t know the answer to a question, you investigate to find out. That’s how learning works. The alternative is willful ignorance.
The studies will happen and will almost certainly confirm that the vaccines provide sterilizing immunity, meaning we don’t need masks to avoid infecting others because an infection can’t survive long enough to become contagious.
And the Spanish Flu in 1918 burned itself out in two years with NO vaccine or treatment.
Yup, government money is the answer to everything for a leftist.
Bingo.
And.....note the use of the word.....most certainly.....as in....that tool (and ANY leftist tool, for that matter) ADMITTEDLY has no idea. So, let’s just throw some more tax payer $$ at this until something sticks with the plebes.
Geez....unreal to even see that kind of talk, here.
(I know....it’s a n00b...but, still :-)
Sure did, and it only cost 50 million deaths worldwide.
Small price to pay for not having to get a shot in your arm, I’ll say! /s
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