Posted on 02/01/2021 5:02:24 PM PST by Capt. Tom
-- The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has announced it will make face masks mandatory on all forms of transportation within the United States, including aboard cruise ships and inside cruise terminals across the country.
The new guidance, which will take effect February 2, will also mandate the use of face masks by all travelers within, to or out of the United States onboard all airplanes, ships, ferries, trains, subways, busses, taxis and ride-sharing services like Uber.
In addition, all bus stations, subway stations, airports and cruise terminals will also require all travelers to use face masks to prevent the spread of COVID-19, as they are classified as transportation hubs.
The CDC states that masks will also be required upon embarkation and disembarkation for cruise ships, along with other forms of transportation, within the U.S. "America's transportation systems are essential," said CDC Director Rochelle P. Walensky. "Given how interconnected most transportation systems are across our nation and the world, when infected persons travel on public conveyances without wearing a mask and with others who are not wearing masks, the risk of interstate and international transmission can grow quickly."
The CDC concluded its guidance by stating its recommendation that all nonessential travel should continue to be avoided.
Most of the world's cruise lines have already introduced guidance requiring the use of face masks to help prevent the spread of COVID-19 when passengers are in the vessel's public areas, except while eating or drinking. As early as last June, it was looking increasingly like cruise passengers would be required to wear masks when cruising resumed.
In September, Royal Caribbean Group and Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings' Healthy Sailing Panel released a series of 74 recommendations to the CDC for the safe resumption of cruising within the United States. Recommendation 16 covered the use of face masks and concluded that usage should be a part of any return to service plan.
"The Panel discussed the benefits to widespread and consistent usage of face masks on board a cruise ship as well as consumer preferences about mask usage," states the Healthy Sail Panel's report (PDF) in the section regarding the usage of personal protective equipment.
"The limited experience this summer aboard European cruises has revealed that a significant portion of guests wear face masks in public areas, even when they are not mandated. Therefore, in the interest of limiting potential spread of virus, the Panel recommends that face coverings are a simple and effective strategy that should be employed."
At the same time, the Cruise Lines International Association, the governing body that represents much of the cruise industry, sent the CDC its list of recommendations for successful restart of cruise.
Both CLIA and the Healthy Sail Panel recommended the mandatory use of face masks when passengers were in public areas outside of their cabins.
Three months after the fact, the CDC has yet to act upon any of the cruise industry's submitted guidance. The CDC's Framework for Conditional Sailing, issued October 30, simply states that the cruise lines must follow applicable guidance from the CDC, without directly specifying what that would be.
"While the actions taken by some cruise ship operators to improve their public health response to COVID-19 are encouraging, ongoing public health oversight is needed to ensure uniform standards for mitigating the communicable disease risk to crew and prospective passengers," the CDC's Framework for Conditional Sailing order states.
Guidelines on Mask Usage Now Clearer for Cruise Terminals within the United States
One aspect that the CDC's new directive clears up is what will be required for passengers embarking on cruises within the United States.
By mandating that all transportation hubs, including seaports, require face coverings for all embarking and disembarking passengers, the CDC has laid out clear, concise expectations for passengers, whether they're embarking at the Brooklyn Cruise Terminal, PortMiami, or setting sail out of Long Beach.
Rather than having a patchwork of differing rules and regulations, the CDC's guidance that takes effect February 2 will make it easier for passengers to know what to expect when embarking or disembarking any cruise ship at any U.S. port of call., though local regulations regarding the usage of face coverings will still have to be followed once outside the cruise terminal.
Regardless of the latest CDC mandate, cruising within the United States has been on pause since March 2020. The CDC's reporting requirements for the cruise industry are currently the strictest of any transportation mode within the United States.
As I see it The CDC has no say in international waters. I think common sense will Prevail. People will agree with some things which will fall away once the ship is under way. In other words people will have an “ok fine if that’s what it takes to get the cruises going fine” attitude. The point about the press circling like vultures waiting/ hoping for a COVID case to pop up is a given. The cruise lines must be prepared for it. Having another ship filled with passengers who cannot leave the ship will destroy cruising.
IMHO If the cruise Lines disobey US regulations on mask use I would expect Biden and the CDC to have them kicked out of US ports.
Cruise lines coming and going from this country can't afford that. -Tom
I had a meeting this past weekend for an organization that I volunteer with. The meeting was a few states away. Rather than drive and have to take an extra day off, I flew.
What a mistake.
The time at the airport mixed with the relatively short flight, it was the longest time masked since the illegal mandates went in place.
Then the northeast snow storm resulted in a 30 hour delay. What fun.
Get off of your power trip.
A name I haven’t seen in awhile. Welcome back
Do I need to wear it on the balcony too? In the sauna and hot tub too..
Methinks the CDC doth do little of much value anymore..
certainly not based on science anyway.
30 hour delay! It would have been horrible anyway but that sure must have put it over the top. Glad you made it home in sane and one piece (I hope)!
When addressing the CDC, do we say “Sieg Heil”, in German, or use the Mandarin equivalent?
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Regarding CDC's constitutionally indefensible mask order imo, patriots are reminded that the states haven't even given Congress the express constitutional power to make quarantine-related laws.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
More specifically, using government power to quarantine as an example, the 19th and first half 20th century Supreme Court had clarified that government power to regulate INTRAstate healthcare is uniquely a state power issue, not the business of the feds.
But more importantly where lockdowns are concerned, note the reference to unique state powers to quarantine in the New York v. Miln excerpt below, the second item in the list.
"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added].” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"Inspection laws, quarantine laws, health laws of every description [emphasis added], as well as laws for regulating the internal commerce of a state and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c., are component parts of this mass.” —Justice Barbour, New York v. Miln., 1837.
"Obviously, direct control of medical practice [emphases added] in the states is beyond the power of the federal government.” —Linder v. United States, 1925.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
And what's even worse than the feds stealing state powers to mandate that everybody wear masks is this. The delegates to the Constitutional Convention had made the Constitution's first numbered clauses, Sections 1-3 of Article I, evidently a good place to hide these clauses from Congress (sarc), to clarify that all federal legislative powers are vested in the elected members of Congress, not in the executive or judicial branches, or in so-called federal regulatory agencies like the CDC, IRS, EPA, etc., constitutionally undefined federal regulatory agencies run by non-elected bureaucrats.
Our corrupt, Democratic and RINO-controlled Congress, along with misguided CDC bureaucrats, also wins today's violation of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment for ordering citizens to wear masks without express constitutional power to do so.
"14th Amendment, Section 3: No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same [emphasis added], or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."
More specifically, CDC bureaucrats need to lose their offices under Section 3 because they swore to protect and defend the Constitution which includes respecting the fed's constitutionally limited powers.
Federal lawmakers likewise need to lose their positions of power under Section 3 for letting CDC bureaucrats get away with stealing state powers to do Congress's dirty, unconstitutional work for it.
Again, in addition to Congress letting foreign countries get away with interfering in 2020 federal elections, Congress continues to let the constitutionally enumerated voting power of us despicables be weakened by letting non-elected federal bureaucrats get away with oppressing people with stolen state powers, quarantine-related mandatory mask orders in this example.
On the other hand, if states oppress citizens with excessive lockdowns and mask requirements, citizens can flex their voting muscle make things difficult for their state government leaders. This is evidence by the current petition to recall California Gov. Newsom.
Recall Newsom form (already 70% 80% signatures, deadline March 10)
In fact, citizens in all states need to work with their state lawmakers to make the following changes to their state constitutions regarding quarantines imo.
State constitutions need to be amended to put time limits on quarantines.
State constitutions also need to be amended to make state health officials elected by popular vote.
Constitutionally time-limited lockdown need to automatically trigger special recall elections for governors, mayors and health officials who order quarantines, also state lawmakers.
Finally, constitutions need to require people planning to run for state and local offices to escrow a refundable "recall deposit" before becoming a candidate, the deposit fully paying in advance for their possible recall elections if they are elected, amounts determined by law.
Corrections, insights welcome.
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The sad part was, it was only a one hour flight or an eight hour drive.
I wasn’t there for work but I rented a car and had some pre-meetings with some prospective customers who we will be working with in a few weeks. I managed to make the time productive.
I didn’t even have a single business card with me.
Lol! That always happens...I was at a meeting in Spain once and didn’t have any business cards but they had a weird machine in the metro station that made them for the equivalent of .50 apiece. I ran down and made ten of them - they didn’t look great, and I’m sure everybody knew they were subway station business cards....but they were better than a napkin!
I thought about it but for what I was actually doing, it wasn’t all that important.
I was visiting construction sites. My rental was a Jeep Wrangler which I returned pretty well covered in mud.
National Car Rental has a pretty cool deal. Somehow I got an Executive Club card. I’ve had it for years and rarely rent cars.
With the exec card, you rent whatever level you want and just randomly pick a car in the lot. It was a tough choice between the Jeep and the Challenger.
At one point I pulled into a poorly maintained gravel parking lot to check email. When I left I drove through a puddle that was two feet deep. The Wrangler plowed through without a beat.
My son recently destroyed his pickup doing the same thing driving over an ice covered 4’ sinkhole
Couldn’t agree more...the walk on top deck while sun is just rising and the freshest air on earth in middle of a vast ocean...this is my favorite part of cruise, besides eating of course lol. The ocean is full of plankton which produces oxygen by the tons.
Tell that to director Wray who sat on Hunter Biden’s laptop for 9 months, while Muller was ordering early morning raids of Trump’s cohorts.
Bump!
The bureaucrats absolutely love to exercise any power they think they have. CDC is full of those types.
Why would you swear off cruises where you can breathe the freshest air with very high oxygen levels from the plankton in ocean, never have to do dishes or shop for food or cook, see live stage entertainment every evening, and have he bed made two times every day?
On the other hand during a flight, you are confined in a not so comfortable seat, food even on international flights is mediocre, and you are breathing in re-circulated air? On a non-stop flight from London to San Francisco I had such a sore butt, it took 2 weeks to recover. Whereas the 14 day Mediterranean cruise from London was the best ever.
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