Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

How Islam Influenced History’s Most ‘Evil’ Christians: A look at the circumstances that gave rise to Vlad the Impaler and Ivan the Terrible.
Frontpage Mag ^ | 01/24/2021 | Raymond Ibrahim

Posted on 01/24/2021 7:23:13 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Raymond Ibrahim is a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center.

Citing history—or, as shall be seen, pseudohistory—is one of the main ways Islam’s apologists try to ennoble Muhammad’s creed and its adherents.  As a sort of counterbalance to purportedly noble Muslims, medieval Christians are regularly presented as the epitome of intolerance and violence.  Commonly leading the pack are Vlad the Impaler and Ivan “the Terrible” (both featured in the 2002 book, The Most Evil Men and Women in History). 

In reality, however, these men—and the culture they lived in—were significantly influenced by Islam; they were surrounded by and fought against Muslims their entire lives.

The historic figure of Vlad III (1430-1476)—whom the fictional, bloodsucking character of Dracula is based on—is portrayed in the West as a sadistic monster who loved nothing better than to impale his own people and drink their blood—often while listening to monks sing hymns, no less.  CNN even claims that the Islamic State learned its sadistic methods of torture and execution from Vlad.

Reality tells a different story: the Romanian prince’s “beastly little habit” of impaling his enemies, as one historian characterizes it, was picked up from and almost exclusively used against the Turks and their agents.  During his youth, Vlad was hostage to one of history’s most depraved sultans—Muhammad (or “Mehmet”) II, who also kept Vlad’s younger brother as a catamite.  Vlad was first introduced to the “art” of impalement from this Ottoman sultan, who regularly employed it. 

Eventually, and as part of his strategy to break away from Muslim rule, Vlad resorted to impalement as a sort of tit for tat—to show the Ottomans that he and his people could give as good as they got.  Hence the irony: if Vlad is seen as a blood drinking monster in the West, he is a national hero in Romania, for fighting and resisting Islam for so long.

Similarly, Ivan IV (“the Terrible,” 1530-1584) is another oft cited example of a Medieval Christian—a piously observant Orthodox one this time—who was a bloodthirsty monster, the quintessential tyrant.  Left unsaid is that some two centuries earlier, beginning around 1300, Russia had been under—and heavily influenced by—the yoke of Islamic Tatars, who brutally treated and enslaved the Russians in the name of jihad. 

Even after 1480, when the Russians formally overthrew the Tatar Yoke, and all throughout Ivan’s reign, the Crimean khanate launched numerous devastating slave raids into Russia; during Ivan’s rein alone, hundreds of thousands of Slavs were abducted and sold into Islamic slavery.  “Centuries of tyranny and brutality at the hands of the Islamicized Mongols and their Turkish agents rendered Russia a land where despotism came to be seen as normal and where human life was cheap,” observes one historian.  “It is perhaps no coincidence that these things insinuated themselves into the Russian character”—including Ivan’s.  Indeed, his moniker, the “terrible” (grozny, more literally, “fearsome”), is actually a reference to how his vanquished Tatar foes saw him).

Such is the rarely acknowledged backdrop of Ivan the Terrible, this “monster” whose behavior—like that of Vlad III and many others—is also regularly presented in a vacuum.  (As a side note, and due to their long and intimate history with Islam, Eastern Europeans—Russians, Romanians, Poles, Hungarians, etc.—remain wary of Islam and resist Muslim immigration.) 

Not only did Islam influence the personal behavior of individual Europeans; it had a molding impact on entire cultures (including the mafia’s).  For example, during the Crusades, it was not uncommon for the Franks to decapitate Muslims (and hurl their heads by catapult onto Muslim fortifications).  The contemporary historian Guibert of Nogent (d. 1124) suggests that they “learned” this from their enemies—that it was a sort of tit for tat, to show Muslim fighters that the Crusaders could give as good as they could get. 

Similarly, it is impossible to understand the brutality and fanaticism of the Spanish Conquistadors vis-à-vis the inhabitants of the Americas without tracing it back to Spain’s existential struggle with Islam, which necessitated the creation of a piously militant culture to resist and eventually turn the tables on jihad.  Once Islam was gone, Spain’s holy warrior mentality—forged as it was over nearly eight centuries of warfare—could not simply disappear overnight and found new outlets under the old context of Christian versus infidel.

None of the aforementioned is meant to “exonerate” Medieval Christians from their own actions—in the end, individuals are responsible for their behavior—but rather place them in context.  After all, it is a staple for Middle East Studies, and by extension media and analysts of all sorts, to present Western influence—from the crusades to colonialism—as fundamentally responsible for the Islamic world’s modern day problems.  As such, surely exploring the question from a vice-versa standpoint is warranted. 

Note: Quotes in this article were sourced from and documented in the author’s book, Sword and Scimitar: Fourteen Centuries of War between Islam and the West.  



TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; islam; ivantheterrible; vladtheimpaler

1 posted on 01/24/2021 7:23:13 PM PST by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Bill Warner, PhD: Jihad vs Crusades
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo


2 posted on 01/24/2021 7:36:20 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Accurate context is deliberately ignored in taqiyaa.


3 posted on 01/24/2021 7:43:02 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Later.


4 posted on 01/24/2021 8:09:03 PM PST by wjcsux (“You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.” )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FreedomPoster

Bkmk


5 posted on 01/24/2021 8:52:07 PM PST by kelly4c
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: FreedomPoster

A few battles by crusaders vs the destroying hoards of Islam.


6 posted on 01/24/2021 9:06:58 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

History in context.
Key words to live by.


7 posted on 01/24/2021 9:22:43 PM PST by TianaHighrider (God bless President Trump. Prayers for PDJT and his loyal supporters.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

In existential war, limiting oneself to “only good fighting methods” is suicidal. Which you will find out when you perish, as your opponents impale you.

Fear is the greatest motivator. Putting the fear of god into your opponents is not just good tactics, but necessary to survive when they want you dead. And following through when they don’t get the message.

Does this ring any bells?

Caution: This site, every post, is monitored by the KGB I mean FBI and their rat fluffers in media matters and other such groups.


8 posted on 01/24/2021 10:27:55 PM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Basket_of_Deplorables
It has always been the case that the government and the leftist fascists hang around and lurk. It's been going on since before even I joined the board.

Violence has always been a Leftist tactic. They just don't like it when anyone calls them on it. or, when anyone else uses their own tactics against them. A post further up the line shows the leftist hypocrisy quite well. https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3928498/posts

The bottom line is, the Left in America wants you and I and anyone who differs in philosophy to them dead. Dead or "re-educated". They fear those who will rebel. And with good reason.

9 posted on 01/24/2021 11:58:11 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Trump-2020)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

We will see this again.


10 posted on 01/25/2021 2:51:32 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Basket_of_Deplorables
Caution: This site, every post, is monitored by the KGB GRU, I mean FBI and their rat fluffers in media matters and other such groups.
The KGB was broken up some decades ago and no longer exists - replaced by the FSB for internal and the GRU for military and external. Historical accuracy and all that.
11 posted on 01/25/2021 4:20:13 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

islam appears much like the left / democrats / socialists / communists - they accuse their victims / enemies / adversaries of what they do.
The only dialectic we should focus on is good vs. evil - not their hegelian choices.


12 posted on 01/25/2021 8:16:28 AM PST by plsjr (<>< Mankind "knows" by trial and error. Only the CREATOR really knows His creation... and the TRUTH.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
This topic was posted 1/24/2021, thanks SeekAndFind.

13 posted on 09/05/2021 8:46:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Is this a bad time to mention that the Spanish Inquisition was right after 700 years of islamic rule?

The Spaniards had no other immediate cultural template for how to run things.

Shortly after that anomaly they returned to civilization.


14 posted on 09/06/2021 7:01:07 AM PDT by null and void (No jab/no job=only the compliant can work, they won't spread dangerous ideas around the workplace!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: null and void
Is this a bad time to mention that the Spanish Inquisition was right after 700 years of islamic rule?

I wasn't expecting that.

15 posted on 09/06/2021 7:02:07 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.


16 posted on 09/06/2021 7:22:29 AM PDT by null and void (No jab/no job=only the compliant can work, they won't spread dangerous ideas around the workplace!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson