[RinaseaofDs]

Perhaps there is a debate.

[ActresponsiblyinVA]

These people are sick.

[kearnyirish2]

Isn’t the logical conclusion that they are one and the same?

[Josa]

Agree. But it really doesn’t matter anymore.

Between institutionalized voter fraud and the incoming illegal alien vote machine your choice is dimocrat or dimocrat

[PeteePie]

The only debate will come from uniparty establishmentarians. Good essay.

[HighSierra5]

You can’t win a war when your leaders decide to surrender after or before the first shot.

[Sans-Culotte]

Any “republican” who voted to impeach Trump in the House, and any who votes to convict in the Senate need to go. It will be interesting to see if any “republican” up for re-election in a couple of years votes to convict. Mitch was just re-elected and isn’t going anywhere. If I had a “republican” rep or senator in my state who voted for this, I would flat out vote for the ‘rat in the next election.

[maddog55]

I’ve heard the party (whichever one loses) is dead at every election.

Republicans are not far more dangerous than Dems at any level. Many of them may lack a spine but the Republican/Conservative/Populist movement is a thousand fold better than the Dems socialists/marxist agenda.

We had a great leader but the spineless ones were/are the problem and they need to be weeded out.

Starting a new party won’t do anything except grant the Dems years of in office damage that’ll be even harder to to undo.

Trump rebranded the Republican party and that rebrand needs to focused on and grown.

[Mr. Jeeves]

We can't fix the Democrats. We have some chance of taking over the GOP - that's the difference. "Fighting" Democrats is a waste of time.

I think it is highly probable that the Deep State will have no patience with the Biden/Harris Comedy Revue, and will subsequently use their election fraud apparatus to cheat some RINO into the White House in 2024. This is not good news - it would actually be a much worse result for conservatives than a Democrat victory. Just like GWB's wars - anything this RINO does for the Deep State will become conservatives' fault. These people are the true enemies of the Republic.

[RoadieFan]

I have to agree. We were cheated by swamp creatures.

[This I Wonder32460]

More projection by the rats.
They are now openly and
comfortably showing their
true selves. They are more
evil then most of us can bear
to acknowledge. Now what?

[Georgia Girl 2]

The only thing I hate worse than a democrat is a Republican.

[GOPJ]

String a bunch of platitudes together and attribute the good ones to democrats and the bad ones to Republicans. Total garbage. Psyops 101 for idiots.

[John S Mosby]

Certain FACADE republicans... are very dangerous. They are the “body men” for the Socialists/Marxists demonrats, and the Bill Kristol wing of the “Lincoln Project”.

They need to be gone- along with the demonrats bleeding us all dry.

[montag813]

Do you really think any Republican could have stopped Biden’s certification? Trump had ONE chance: during the summer and fall to deploy the DHS to stop the fraud. But even that would have failed, because the Dems brilliantly used the “crisis” to increase absentee ballots a hundredfold. Once this was accomplished, Trump was finished. After the election he should have declared the election stolen, but conceeded “for the good of the country.” Statesmanlike, and would set him up well to be a force in 2022/2024 if Biden/Harris was a disaster.

[vigilante2]

RINO’s aren't Republicans

[DoodleBob]

Terminology is important. Trump is a Republican. So is Willard. So are many people on FR (or were, until people in disgust changed party affiliation recently).

Reagan also faced haters in his own party. Alger Hiss was an American Citizen. Benedict Arnold was not a British military officer (at first).

So who are our allies? I feel more affiliation with people who may have different color skin than me, may have an accent, or may even like Springsteen... as long as they believe in a state that is there to protect the citizen from force or fraud in a Constitutionally-limited manner. There are bonus points if they consider America a republic, value tradition, and see more danger in Antifa than the 2nd Amendment.

The fact is, Trump built a coalition of tens of millions of citizens that is so broad and heterogeneous that many people in his own coalition may not "like" their kin. To wit: when I post this pic (the flag came up after the Orlando shooting)...

...many people lose their mind. "How dare they" is a common retort - on BOTH sides - when in reality Trump polls pretty well on these dimensions.

I posted this article from a hip-hop publication trying to shame rappers into masking-up. A few FReepers got it right - I don't care who they are as long as they are fellow freedom-loving/statist-detesting citizens.

The next 18 months will be a period of cascading emotions. Many "friends" may fall away and many "foes" may become allies. But the truth is, nobody on January 21, 2013 had a clue what we'd see coming down that escalator in June 2015. So, for now, I will sit tight, read widely, and act like Dan Akroyd and Eddie Murphy at the end of Trading Places...those trades all looked the same but they revealed who they were truly, in a state of frenzy and panic.

[redfreedom]

Thank you. A vanity that is logic based. Every point you made is based on fact.

Think of all the republicans that got into office with Tea Party support. Think of all the republicans that got into office or got reelected with Trump’s support. Think of the three SC justices that got their jobs thanks to Trump. Think of the state legislature people that got high approval ratings and reelected thanks to Trump.

Now think of all the massive voter fraud and accompanying evidence to support it. Practically none of them gave a flying eff come Dec 14th. Come Jan 6th Trump got worse treatment.

DC is like an infectious disease. It offers illegal money, power and sex. Yes the sex is that Jeffrey Epstein grade which is beyond sick. The GOP were into one of the three if not all of them and had to protect their their own asses.

There are a couple of choices. Secession, which unto itself has numerous problems.

A new party? First just how are they to be elected in a fraudulent system? Second once they get to DC will they become corrupted too???

I do not have an answer other than the GOP is dead, it officially committed suicide Jan 6th.

[MrRelevant]

You still arent convinced yet there arent two parties? One party- the swamp.

[InterceptPoint]

I don’t agree. There is a mechanism for ridding the GOP of our dangerous representatives. And we have Trump on our when we start that process in 2022.

Read what Brennan and Clapper have been telling us lately. They want a police state where conservatives are punished because of their beliefs. For me, they are the face of our enemy even more so than Puppet-Joe. But the B+C+PJ combination scares me to death.

My position: The American people don’t give up freedom easily. They will eventually come to their.senses and return us to some sort of normalcy. I could be wrong about that but I am hopeful.

[PeterPrinciple]

Ultimately, I think we will end up with two parties again somehow - Constitutionalists vs Establishmentarians.

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What does history show us? Most will think of recent 3rd parties.

But was there not a time when a 3rd small party became a major party? Let’s do what they did. Correct me if I am wrong but was not this small political party called Republicans.

Lets go back to the beginnings. We don’t have to reinvent the wheel.. Let’s repeat what worked.