Posted on 01/21/2021 5:49:15 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
Again, in the spirit of getting something out of this mess, I don't think it's debatable anymore that Republicans are more dangerous than Democrats.
Democrats are plain about their agenda. Republicans laid in wait for their moment, and they took the mask off.
Look at people like Cotton, Thune, Graham - people who we thought when Newt came on the scene would permanently give Conservatism a voice - they all went Uniparty.
I guess another way to say this, and to make this more debatable, is to say any aid given to the GOP works against Constitutional Conservatives.
It's really that simple.
As such, I think it will be interesting to solidify Democrats official hold on power and help the GOP die.
The GOP has made a profession of telling us what we need to hear and then in no time settling into their role as the faux opposition.
I'm looking at a bunch of liberals who are not establishment Democrats that have similar concerns.
Ultimately, I think we will end up with two parties again somehow - Constitutionalists vs Establishmentarians.
Anyway, maybe that's the debate. The GOP is a traitorous political organization that belongs on the same list as BLM in my opinion. They've arguably done more damage.
Maybe that's the discussion.
You missed my point. And I am definitely not telling you to vote GOP or for any other party.
My point is the Rats have the conservative vote split and they are loving it as they know they can hold power.
There are a lot of folks who voted GOP like you and apparently, will not vote GOP again for whatever reason. There are also a lot of others who would continue to vote GOP.
As long as that continues, the Rats will hold power.
A good example of this was the western Canadian conservatives split with the rest of the Canadian conservatives in Canada in the 1990s. They created the Reform party. That split allowed the liberal government to hold power through most of the 1990s.
It wasn’t until the 2000s when the fractions came to an understanding and united again that conservatives were a force on the federal level in Canada.
Thank you. A vanity that is logic based. Every point you made is based on fact.
Think of all the republicans that got into office with Tea Party support. Think of all the republicans that got into office or got reelected with Trump’s support. Think of the three SC justices that got their jobs thanks to Trump. Think of the state legislature people that got high approval ratings and reelected thanks to Trump.
Now think of all the massive voter fraud and accompanying evidence to support it. Practically none of them gave a flying eff come Dec 14th. Come Jan 6th Trump got worse treatment.
DC is like an infectious disease. It offers illegal money, power and sex. Yes the sex is that Jeffrey Epstein grade which is beyond sick. The GOP were into one of the three if not all of them and had to protect their their own asses.
There are a couple of choices. Secession, which unto itself has numerous problems.
A new party? First just how are they to be elected in a fraudulent system? Second once they get to DC will they become corrupted too???
I do not have an answer other than the GOP is dead, it officially committed suicide Jan 6th.
You still arent convinced yet there arent two parties? One party- the swamp.
Just like the liberals, by the way, who are split into factions by gender, sexuality, economic equity types, and environmental/animal right types.
They unify only in response to us, and we unify only in response to them. Think about it: do black Americans screaming for reparations want to go vegan? Do climate scaredy-cats really care if a tranny can get a free operation?
Our two biggest mistakes of the century were fighting legal abortion, and abandoning the teaching profession. Fighting abortion, even early term, chased most young people straight into the arms of the DNC, and conservatives were all too good to teach other people's children, so...
Honestly, I think we've lost. All I can see us really doing is turning Amish--not literally--but rejecting the consumerist, big Tech world, going Galt financially, becoming invisible politically, homeschooling our children in secret to keep our culture alive, staying out of the military, creating small communities, and keeping to ourselves. Keep quiet and let the liberals turn on each other (which they will.)
The reality is, neither Jesus nor Q is coming back to save us. I recommend we collect old books and sheet music, and hide them like the Irish monks hid what literature they could during the Dark Ages. Pass down historical and cultural knowledge quietly to our young, teach them morals not because Abraham, Jesus, or Mohammed said to, but because sexual, emotional, and financial restraint lead to long term contentment and self-esteem more reliably than hedonism does. Wait and hope that in a few hundred years, when the population has shrunk, and the populace are tired of being the Elois to a tiny class of cannibalistic, wealthy Morlocks, they find a way to rise again.
I don’t agree. There is a mechanism for ridding the GOP of our dangerous representatives. And we have Trump on our when we start that process in 2022.
Read what Brennan and Clapper have been telling us lately. They want a police state where conservatives are punished because of their beliefs. For me, they are the face of our enemy even more so than Puppet-Joe. But the B+C+PJ combination scares me to death.
My position: The American people don’t give up freedom easily. They will eventually come to their.senses and return us to some sort of normalcy. I could be wrong about that but I am hopeful.
DC is like an infectious disease.
Think what happened to the USSR. They became so corrupt, so overbearing that the people and the satellite countries began to ignore them. Remember Lech.
The power is concentrated in DC, it needs to be taken back. The fight is now state and local,. As it was before Trump came on line and offered a quick fix in our mind.
Now corruption NEVER goes away. Always be on guard. Corruption on the lower level is more manageable.
I could see encouraging the state of California (corruption) and other state to be jealous of the central power. the seeds of jealously are obviously there if you look.
Folks look to history.
I think you are clinging to something out of shock. It’s gone. How will you ever, ever trust anything they had to say again.
Ultimately, I think we will end up with two parties again somehow - Constitutionalists vs Establishmentarians.
But was there not a time when a 3rd small party became a major party? Let’s do what they did. Correct me if I am wrong but was not this small political party called Republicans.
Lets go back to the beginnings. We don’t have to reinvent the wheel.. Let’s repeat what worked.
People like Graham and Ryan are perfect templates of what a Republican in Washington is. They are the norm. Trump just wore the Republican name for a while. He is not them.
There is going to be a fight. None of us like to fight or confront.
but the timing and situation of the fight is critical. I hope and think Trump is playing a long term gain.
We need him. But we also have to shift the battle lines back to local/state
All Republican incumbents need to be voted out. Every single one of them, they are all tainted.
When given the chance, Pubbies will fold nearly every time.
The Republican Party has way too many old fool leaders that need to be retired or move to the Demonut Party
On the contrary. I totally agree - just one party.
It’s not the DNC “keeping us split.” We ARE split,
DON’T CONFUSE NATIONAL AND STATE/LOCAL. Take eyes off national and focus on state/local. Trump will carry the national portion for us.
The goal is to find the warriors, but test them hard to be certain. But a few will slip through, just like they did for George Washington.
It is time for the 2nd. The 2nd is not about guns.
A well regulated militia being necessary for...............
My Iowa history of militias is a local leader would form up a group, prepare and equip themselves and then present them selves to the chosen leaders for battles. Some were transporters, some engineers etc.
Know you history folks, repeat the good stuff and understand the tactics of the bad.
Now can some one tell me what the well regulated militia is necessary for?
I think that’s the mistake: It’s their JOB to fold. This isn’t an issue of character. It’s a job description - tell them whatever they want to hear and when you get there, do what we tell you to do, but make it look like a horse race.
Marco Rubio is the poster child for this. Graham too. Graham especially. I think he prides himself on his performance. Even Fox got tired of it (Maria Bartiromo was the first.)
A new party? First just how are they to be elected in a fraudulent system? Second once they get to DC will they become corrupted too???
CAn you think of any. None are easy that I can think of. We need to stop thinking of easy ways. The battle is long and hard but will be worth it.
Why do we fight? for what purpose? If we can answer that question we have come a long way .
Eyes on the ball. The problem is the corrupt centralized power, not whether they are dems or republicans.
Trump understands that, do we?
“Think what happened to the USSR. They became so corrupt, so overbearing that the people and the satellite countries began to ignore them. Remember Lech”
I think that’s why the basic people of Russia are so corrupt today. Many generations lived within a corrupt system. They knew it. They knew how to survive. They knew organized criminal activity would work out. Just pay off a few commissars and you could have your little black market goodies. Even the farmers private plots produced more than they could eat while the collective acres went unattended.
My point is they learned how to survive in a corrupt system by being corrupt themselves. How else did the Russian mafia get so big and so powerful all at once? It’s because they were that way when the USSR collapsed. Why do Russians need dash cams on their cars? Because once private auto insurance came, so did massive fake auto claims.
They knew how to survive in a corrupt system. Is this what we want?
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