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EXCITING NEWS FROM THE SOUTH: Strategical Movements of the Government Forces at Charleston; THE SECESSION MOVEMENT (12/28/1860)
New York Times archives – Times Machine ^ | 12/28/1860

Posted on 12/28/2020 8:01:31 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson

CHARLESTON, Thursday, Dec. 27.

WASHINGTON, Thursday, Dec. 27.

The proceedings of the House and Senate were completely broken up by the news from Charleston, and soon after its reception they adjourned.

Fort Moultrie was evacuated last night.

Previous to the evacuation the guns were spiked.

Only four soldiers were left in charge.

The troops have all been conveyed to Fort Sumter.

Intense excitement and indignation prevails.

The Convention is in secret session.

The gun-carriages are being burnt at Fort Moultrie.

The cannon are spiked, and it is reported that a train is laid to blow up the fort.

The last report is doubted.

Major ANDERSON states that he evacuated Fort Moultrie in order to allay the discussion about that post, and at the same time strengthen his own position.

Capt. FOSTER, with a small force, still remains at Fort Moultrie.

Several of the city military companies have been ordered out.

A collision is not improbable.

CHARLESTON, Thursday, Dec. 27 -- P.M.

The military have been ordered out to protect the magazines and arsenals in this locality. It is reported that military corps from the interior are en route here.

I have just had an interview with Capt. FOSTER, now in command of Fort Moultrie. He says ANDERSON has acted upon his own responsibility. Fort Moultrie has not been set on fire.

Capt. FOSTER is still in command of Fort Moultrie with a few regulars.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: civilwar
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Bleeding Kansas, Dred Scott, Lincoln-Douglas, Harper’s Ferry, the election of 1860, secession – all the events leading up to the Civil War, as seen through news reports of the time and later historical accounts

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1 posted on 12/28/2020 8:01:31 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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2 posted on 12/28/2020 8:02:19 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: chajin; henkster; CougarGA7; BroJoeK; central_va; Larry Lucido; wagglebee; Colonel_Flagg; Amagi; ...
Exciting News from the South: Strategical Movements of the Government Forces at Charleston – 2-3
The Republican Ultimatum – 3
The Secession Movement – 3-4
Editorial: Military Movements at Charleston – 4
Editorial: Mr. Lincoln and Negro Equality– 4-5
3 posted on 12/28/2020 8:03:07 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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The War of Northern Aggression has morphed in the 20/21 War of Coastal Suppression.


4 posted on 12/28/2020 8:25:41 AM PST by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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A collision is not improbable.

Now THERE is an understatement.
5 posted on 12/28/2020 9:07:13 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

It would be helpful if the stories did not track so nicely to today. It can be confusing.


6 posted on 12/28/2020 9:40:51 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
"Editorial: Mr. Lincoln and Negro Equality– 4-5 "

This editorial begins with an apparently fake-quote from Lincoln dated to September 1858, in which Lincoln supposedly says negroes should be treated equally, as other citizens.
It then contrasts that fake-quote with known actual quotes in which Lincoln said the opposite.
Those are the quotes which could get Lincoln's name removed from schools in San Francisco.

The reality in 1860 -- Crazy Roger Taney's Dred Scott ruling notwithstanding -- was that African Americans could already vote in Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Vermont.
In New York some blacks could vote.
So issues of black equality were already being addressed in 1858, the time of Lincoln's actual & alleged quotes, and the question then was: should such equality be expanded to Illinois?
In the fake-quote Lincoln says "yes", in actual quote, "no".

Ironically, of course, it was Lincoln's actual change of heart from "no" to "yes" which so enraged a Maryland actor he determined to take drastic actions against Lincoln in 1865.

7 posted on 12/29/2020 5:33:38 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...) )
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ptsal: "The War of Northern Aggression has morphed in the 20/21 War of Coastal Suppression."

No, the Democrats' war to destroy the United States continues unabated since at least 1860.

Only Democrats' tactics & issues have changed, but their hatred of and war against the United States is as strong today as it ever was.

8 posted on 12/29/2020 5:39:02 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...) )
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