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Mike Pence is being held out as the potential savior of a fair election
American Thinker ^ | 24 Dec, 2020 | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 12/24/2020 4:02:20 PM PST by MtnClimber

It appears that, as both vice president and president of the Senate, Pence has both access to information and actual power to affect the election outcome.

For the most part, Americans assume that the vice president lacks power. The president may assign him responsibilities, but the Constitution does not. Instead, he's the understudy, there just in case something happens to the president. Except that, in this strange year of 2020, we may learn that the vice president is the most powerful man in America. Ivan Raiklin, a constitutional lawyer, claims that the Constitution grants Mike Pence the power to overturn a manifestly fraudulent election.

On December 22, Raiklin sent out a tweet urging Pence to inform the secretaries of state in those six contested states that, despite overwhelming evidence of fraud, certified electors, that he cannot accept those certifications because the electors were not legally appointed.

The tweet has attached a memorandum for President Trump that purports to come from the White House itself, for it's written on what appears to be official White House letterhead. Here's my attempt to summarize in plain English the core claims in the memorandum:

Under Art. II, Section 1 of the Constitution, each state, as its Legislature "may direct," will "appoint" its electors. Because the six disputed states (Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin) ran entirely fraudulent elections, and because their Legislatures did not dictate fraudulent elections, there is nothing to certify. (For the vast scope of both traditional and electronic fraud in each state, you can find an excellent short summation here and an excellent long summation here.)

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: communism; insurrection
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To: MtnClimber

We have to save purselves, no one else is going to save us.


21 posted on 12/24/2020 4:25:50 PM PST by GreatRoad ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act' )
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To: MtnClimber

I’m still choosing to believe that Pence is a man of enough character to not blatantly lie on camera about continuing this fight. Did you see his speech at Turning Point? He didn’t HAVE to do that.

He can go down in history as the VP who saved the nation, or the one that let it fall to communism.


22 posted on 12/24/2020 4:25:57 PM PST by Zeddicus
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To: MtnClimber

We have to save ourselves, no one else is going to save us.


23 posted on 12/24/2020 4:25:59 PM PST by GreatRoad ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act' )
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To: Mr. N. Wolfe

just looked at what he said about ryan when he retired

yep..pretty friendly


24 posted on 12/24/2020 4:27:17 PM PST by RummyChick (I BLAME KUSHNER)
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To: datura

Pence is for Trump what GHWB was for Reagan - Deep State plant


I don’t think he was as bad as Bush. I think it important to recall that Bush was “ex” CIA.


25 posted on 12/24/2020 4:29:54 PM PST by Hieronymus (“I shall drink to the Pope, if you please, still, to conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.”)
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To: MtnClimber

Don’t hold your breath.


26 posted on 12/24/2020 4:31:21 PM PST by lee martell
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To: fidelis

I always wondered how these Downer Freepers survived 8 years of Obamatard. Judging by these idiots posts, they should have killed themselves in 2008..


27 posted on 12/24/2020 4:32:21 PM PST by max americana (fired liberal employees at every election since 2008 because I enjoy seeing them cry )
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Neither candidate will be accepted as the legitimate President by a large minority of Americans.

That's really what it's going to come down to.

Trump voters don't believe that Biden won fair and square.

Biden voters don't believe it either but they don't care. After all, fraud is OK to keep Hitler out of power.

28 posted on 12/24/2020 4:32:42 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Fledermaus

Well you are absolutely correct, what a bunch of downers.


29 posted on 12/24/2020 4:36:42 PM PST by genesismt
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To: lee martell

I am not holding my breath. Especially knowing that China is stoking the flames.


30 posted on 12/24/2020 4:38:22 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: rolling_stone

Our great site is absolutely riddled with DU-types. It’s so sad. But not for long, I believe.


31 posted on 12/24/2020 4:39:40 PM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: lee martell

Pence, Biden, Michelle Obama, and Hillary got one of those envelopes at the Bush funeral. Carter did not get one.

Pence was invited to some sporting event with the Bush family. Maybe Superbowl. I dont remember.

I dont think it has ever been determined what those envelopes were..but it is important that Pence got whatever it was. Might have just been a personal thank you. Who knows.


32 posted on 12/24/2020 4:43:08 PM PST by RummyChick (I BLAME KUSHNER)
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To: MtnClimber

He seals HIS Presidency if he seals Trump !


33 posted on 12/24/2020 4:45:27 PM PST by knarf (The Constitution protects the right to peaceably assemble, not to protest)
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To: RummyChick

i went back to see what the deal was with the envelopes..

apparently it’s the wives that got them

someone said Laura asked is this true and George said Yes.

So I listened to this broadcast of David Janda. I have no idea who he is but he hated Bush.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDXubXJQkgM&ab_channel=CBSNews

and of course the video cuts off as he is getting ready to say something interesting at the end

he claims Pence was the insurance policy of the Bush family


34 posted on 12/24/2020 5:01:53 PM PST by RummyChick (I BLAME KUSHNER)
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To: BenLurkin
Would greatly prefer that the liberals be the ones who start it

Why would they when they know they can rig elections and corrupt agencies that are supposed to be neutral?

35 posted on 12/24/2020 5:03:38 PM PST by Kazan
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To: datura
America’s only hope for a future is through force now.

Maybe that needs to start on January 6. At the very least, millions need to show up and demand Pence do the right thing.

36 posted on 12/24/2020 5:05:19 PM PST by Kazan
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To: MtnClimber

Bttt


37 posted on 12/24/2020 5:13:03 PM PST by Guenevere (When the foundations are being destroyed what can the righteous do)
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To: MtnClimber

Pence has already said that he’s not doing this.

So why is everybody here expecting the cavalry to come? It’s not going to happen.

I don’t know what we’re going to do. The leftist crackdown is going to be swift and severe. And we ... by “we”, I mean anybody and everybody who doesn’t want a Communist takeover of the US ... have no leaders to show us how to oppose this.

It’s not going to be fun.


38 posted on 12/24/2020 5:15:30 PM PST by livius
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To: MtnClimber

If this legal theory is true, Pence should warn the state legislatures that he will not accept clearly fraudulent election results.

This will give them notice to take action or accept the consequences.


39 posted on 12/24/2020 5:24:29 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is solving the world's problems only to distract us from Russia.)
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To: livius
Pence has already said that he’s not doing this.
First I’ve heard of this, livius. Source?
40 posted on 12/24/2020 5:33:03 PM PST by eastsider
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