Okay, Doomer.
Posted on 12/24/2020 4:02:20 PM PST by MtnClimber
It appears that, as both vice president and president of the Senate, Pence has both access to information and actual power to affect the election outcome.
For the most part, Americans assume that the vice president lacks power. The president may assign him responsibilities, but the Constitution does not. Instead, he's the understudy, there just in case something happens to the president. Except that, in this strange year of 2020, we may learn that the vice president is the most powerful man in America. Ivan Raiklin, a constitutional lawyer, claims that the Constitution grants Mike Pence the power to overturn a manifestly fraudulent election.
On December 22, Raiklin sent out a tweet urging Pence to inform the secretaries of state in those six contested states that, despite overwhelming evidence of fraud, certified electors, that he cannot accept those certifications because the electors were not legally appointed.
The tweet has attached a memorandum for President Trump that purports to come from the White House itself, for it's written on what appears to be official White House letterhead. Here's my attempt to summarize in plain English the core claims in the memorandum:
Under Art. II, Section 1 of the Constitution, each state, as its Legislature "may direct," will "appoint" its electors. Because the six disputed states (Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin) ran entirely fraudulent elections, and because their Legislatures did not dictate fraudulent elections, there is nothing to certify. (For the vast scope of both traditional and electronic fraud in each state, you can find an excellent short summation here and an excellent long summation here.)
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I think that no matter which way the election goes, all hell will break loose.
Stories are coming out that VP Pence is backing down.
We are doomed.
Neither candidate will be accepted as the legitimate President by a large minority of Americans. There is no way out of this mess. Antifa would fight quicker if Biden is denied, but patriots will fight soon enough if Trump is denied.
I dont know why anyone thinks Pence is going to go against the establishment
Its just not going to happen.
Imo, you have one shot. State Legislatures. And it appears Arizona is the only chance..if that is even still in the works.
Would greatly prefer that the liberals be the ones who start it, and the Americans the ones who will finish it.
Pence is for Trump what GHWB was for Reagan - Deep State plant.
America’s only hope for a future is through force now. We can have our civil war now - on our terms - or later under communism when the left controls all of government.
Let’s roll.
This is his chance to go down in history, though he doesn’t strike me as the type would would be motivated by that.
I would hope that this being his chance to serve American would suffice,
I thought that Pence is going to be traveling overseas that week and Grassley is the one who will try to Seal the Steal for Biden and the Uniparty.
“I dont know why anyone thinks Pence is going to go against the establishment Its just not going to happen.”
You are correct. These are politicians we’re talking about, not normal humans.
Okay, Doomer.
So many rumors, so few facts.
“I dont know why anyone thinks Pence is going to go against the establishment
It’s just not going to happen.”
Agreed. Pence has always been an establishmentarian. He was a close friend of Paul Ryan when they were both in the house of representatives.
I agree, state legislatures, AZ first, then others follow.
And these states don’t even need to flip Electors to Trump, they need only rescind Biden Electors.
With no candidate having 270 or more, the 12th Amendment leads to Trump winning.
Pence was part of the House leadership team of Boehner, Ryan, Cantor, McCarthy, I wouldn’t get your hopes up.
Pence is Swamp.
I will reserve judgment on Pence because so far he has been very loyal to Trump. But if he can pull this off, he has my vote for 2024.
sorry, i believe pence is a good christian and will do the right thing..
Lots of bogus stuff out there to discourage action.
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