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Model-Fashion Mogul Kat Von D Leaving California Over High Taxes, Corruption, and ‘Tyrannical Government Overreach’
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| 22 Dec 2020
| BEN KEW
Posted on 12/22/2020 7:12:22 PM PST by conservative98
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To: EEGator
I am far from Puritanical, especially by FR standards. I realize that and am sorry if I came across crassly. My comment about being less puritanical applies as much to me as it does anyone else. I have to keep reminding myself that times have changed and so have people. I, we, need to be zeroed in on common objectives. I've talked to so many people who identify as Democrat but when you ask them their thoughts on fiscal responsibility, personal responsibility and human rights, they're conservatives. Half the problem is they think Republicans are Grandma's party.
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posted on
12/23/2020 12:10:13 PM PST
by
liberalh8ter
(The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
To: liberalh8ter
She works, I’m sure she employs numerous people, and she’s realizing the issues in CA. That’s a win.
I agree with reaching out and talking to people to try to bring them into the fold.
We’ll take what we can get. :)
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posted on
12/23/2020 12:44:25 PM PST
by
EEGator
To: DoodleBob
Interesting scatter-graph.
It's funny that so many of them label the top and bottom correctly, but label the left and right as "Left" and "Right", instead of (say) "Socialist" and "Conservative".
I've known my left from my right without labels since I was a little kid: Left is my sammich hand, right is my milk hand.
Not so much milk these days, though, got to be lactose-intolerant.
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posted on
12/23/2020 4:52:04 PM PST
by
dayglored
("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
To: DoodleBob
So top to bottom is amount of government control, but what’s the left-right axis? It’s just labeled ‘left’ and ‘right’, that tells you nothing about what’s being compared..?
To: Svartalfiar; dayglored
The vertical axis is supposed to be the economic dimension, and the horizontal axis is the personal/social dimension. Right is free, left is control, up is control, down is free.
Thus, the traditional definitions of the quadrants, starting in the upper left and going clockwise, are statism, conservatism, libertarian, and liberalism.
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posted on
12/23/2020 9:09:40 PM PST
by
DoodleBob
(Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
To: DoodleBob
The vertical axis is supposed to be the economic dimension, and the horizontal axis is the personal/social dimension. Right is free, left is control, up is control, down is free.
Thus, the traditional definitions of the quadrants, starting in the upper left and going clockwise, are statism, conservatism, libertarian, and liberalism. 
But that's not what your chart in post #24 had... You say right is personal freedom, yet the farthest right on your chart is Nazi/Fascism, followed by monarchies. Neither of those is big on personal freedom. Likewise, the bottom far-left is anarchists, and they are certainly much more about personal freedoms than their left-side placement.
To: Svartalfiar
My bad...I was tired and posted the wrong pic.
The traditional approach to the grid is to measure views on economic and personal freedom, positing that left/right doesn't work. A typical conservative thinks taxes should be low and drug laws high, while the typical liberal thinks the reverse. Statists want drug laws and taxes high and libertarians want both to be low.
The chart I posed on #24 was in response to a pythonesque request that his preferred governmental form be presented in a grid. In retrospect, I delivered on that but, frankly, it's not the best grid ever. For example, contemporary conservatives should be in the upper right quadrant, with strong economic freedom desires (right side) but muted personal freedom desires (upper half).
This quiz helps to illustrate the point.
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posted on
12/24/2020 8:10:07 AM PST
by
DoodleBob
(Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
To: DoodleBob
My bad...I was tired and posted the wrong pic.
The traditional approach to the grid is to measure views on economic and personal freedom, positing that left/right doesn't work. A typical conservative thinks taxes should be low and drug laws high, while the typical liberal thinks the reverse. Statists want drug laws and taxes high and libertarians want both to be low.
All good. Yup, I've seen that style before, the first one just didn;t fit it very well.
To: Salamander
Genghis Khan was a piker; he slaughtered all the men, he took the women and children as slaves.
He should have just KILLED THEM ALL!
That way the problem does not come back in 10 or 20 years to bite you on the ass.
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posted on
01/10/2021 5:02:24 PM PST
by
5th MEB
(Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
To: conservative98
Good.. bye Kookifornia...
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posted on
09/21/2021 9:21:25 AM PDT
by
Deplorable American1776
(I'm the one trying to save American Democracy...Donald Trump 6/21 at the NCGOP convention)
To: EEGator
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posted on
09/21/2021 9:29:38 AM PDT
by
shotgun
To: shotgun
Another future ex girlfriend!...
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posted on
09/21/2021 9:31:10 AM PDT
by
EEGator
To: EEGator
LOL...
My thoughts exactly
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posted on
09/21/2021 9:32:32 AM PDT
by
shotgun
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