Posted on 12/14/2020 11:55:17 PM PST by Libloather
Longtime Wall Street Journal opinion editor Paul Gigot defended an op-ed published over the weekend that drew the ire of many in the mainstream media by calling for the incoming first lady to drop her "doctor" title.
Wall Street Journal contributor Joseph Epstein’s piece, “Is There a Doctor in the White House? Not if You Need an M.D.,” argued that Dr. Jill Biden, who holds two master’s degrees and a doctorate in education from the University of Delaware, “should think about dropping the honorific, which feels fraudulent, even comic.”
The op-ed sent liberals into a tizzy, as everyone from the incoming second gentleman to Northwestern University – where Epstein was a lecturer of English – condemned the piece along with a plethora of liberal media members.
“Dr. Biden earned her degrees through hard work and pure grit. She is an inspiration to me, to her students, and to Americans across this country. This story would never have been written about a man,” Kamala Harris’ husband Doug Emhoff tweeted.
The New York Times and NBC’s “Today” scolded the piece, a Washington Post columnist declared the op-ed was “worse than you thought” and labeled Epstein a “weird, grumpy, elitist man.” CNN’s liberal in-house media pundit Brian Stelter chalked it up as “sexist,” far-left actress Debra Messing called it “a disgusting display of misogyny” and Michelle Obama even blasted the piece in a lengthy Instagram message.
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GPO Style Manual, among others does include it. I don’t have access to to current AP but suspect it does—what you don’t mix is honorific and suffix. Anyway, it is simply a common courtesy and respect to include Dr. or Ph.D. And it is entirely appropriate to say Dr. Biden. Complain about her politics, about her husband, whatever, but let’s be respectful of the degree that she earned. I’m sure you would have no problem doing it if it was somebody with politics you agreed with. So do it here.
You probably dont go around calling yourself Esquire to your neighbors even though it is an honorific used in writing
Not knowing her background I thought she was an MD since she was insisting on calling herself DR.
Not me. I don’t recognize a pHD in education as legitimate. Besides I’m not big on massaging egos.
Lawyers earn their degree too. Do you use the honorific Esquire when you talk to or about one?
And if Cosby wanted to be referred to as Dr. Cosby, I would do that as well.
I do not know if you need a lawyer that uses Esquire in verbal conversation. I also do not know of any attorneys, other than those teaching that want to be called doctor or professor. If they did, I would respect that. I know a lot of other folks with PhD’s, educators, engineers, etc. and I have absolutely no problem my friend to them as doctor or professor when it’s appropriate. If I had finished my PhD, I would likely to use it in formal or professional settings as well. Let me ask you this, do you have similar problem saying Dr. Sebastian Gorka? That is his preference and the common way he is addressed.
And I hate Siri and auto correct that keeps messing up my text.
I take it you have no friends or family members that have PhD‘s in education? And if they do, do you really tell them that it’s illegitimate?!
I think it is pretentious BS. Like demanding to be called Senator
The proper term is Nurse Biden.
In an academic setting that’s fine, I suppose. Outside of that?
No.
Thank you!
Exactly how I see it.
I worked with more pHDs than I can count. Some of them must have been in education.
Of course, I wouldn’t say anything. That would be rude. I just didn’t call them Dr. No one ever asked me to.
At least Dr. Bill was handing out prescriptions.
“And what exactly are you a doctor OF, Mr. Venkman?”
I graduated from law school with a JD, Juris Doctorate. I would be embarrassed to call myself Dr. Smith
I wonder if she and Hunter got their degrees the same way Hollywood parents got their kids into Harvard. Just wondering.
A doctorate in education is the equivalent of Lyndon Johnson’s bucket of spit.
I learned this from years of explaining basic accounting principles to CPAs ... and by helping a close friend win a lawsuit involving a law firm that used falsified documents in a legal proceeding (the firm’s malpractice insurance carrier paid a hefty settlement because the lawyer’s defense against a fraud claim was: “I’m not dishonest; I’m just incompetent and retarded.”).
Your average electrician or plumber is smarter and better educated than some dope with a PhD. in education.
I always assumed that Jill’s marriage to Joe was nothing more than a research project for a doctoral dissertation in educating retarded adults.
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