Posted on 12/13/2020 10:48:54 AM PST by Blueflag
From a friend via a copy-pasted email thread
Many of you you have asked how safely store what we'll call "the modern sporting rifle" for the long term. Particularly let's focus on storage in what we'll euphemistically call "environmentally exposed" locations.
The typical answer has been to liberally coat the firearm in some sort of viscous grease (last generally sold in the Korean War era) that can take an hour to get off if the firearm is needed/desired for use, and place all the parts in various bags inside a large diameter PVC Schedule 40 or better pipe, with threaded caps.
Well, that'll certainly do the trick.
But let me suggest a simpler method, one that works for pistols as well: The 11" wide roll of Food Saver bags (ON THE 14' ROLL) and some silica gel packs. Clean and oil your firearm, place them in a proper length of Food Saver roll (having already sealed one end) add a liberal supply of silica gel packs and O2 absorbent if you have it, and then vacuum seal the bag. Then vacuum seal THAT gun-bag inside a second custom-length Food Saver bag. Be careful to not over-vacuum the bag or sharpish edges of your firearm can puncture the bag.
For an AR-platform rifle, you need to separate the upper and lower, and create two sealed bag-units. Double bag the upper, and separately double-bag the lower. Your bagged and protected firearm (long or short gun) is now ready for storage 'wherever'. Sure it'd be better to place the bagged unit in a PVC tube if you planned to bury it, but you may not be able to or need to bury items for your storage needs.
The upside of this method is that (a) it's cheap if you already have a vacuum sealer food storage system (like Food Saver) (b) you can store any modern sporting firearm or pistol - often dissembled, (c) ammo boxes (not the cans - be reasonable- also handle this really well, and (d) your firearm is ready to use in a couple minutes from removing it out of the bags - versus MANY minutes to get all that grease off a firearm.
It's especially easy to store a grab-and-go pistol kit: the pistol, extra mags 80% loaded for spring durability, and a box of 50 or 100 rounds.
Note well, the bags are not designed to handle friction from rubbing/moving. They're pretty tough, but if you have a bagged unit bouncing around in the bottom our your pick-up's tool box, it'll be torn in a month. Wrap it appropriately if you HAVE to store the unit where friction may come into play, and inspect frequently.
This may help you if you are considering ways to safely store 'items' for a while.
Boating accident...
If I lived next door to George Soros I'd know what to do, but I don't know where any billionaire globalist psychopaths live.
4473 doesn’t match your current location? Some people purchased firearms from friends/relatives/newspaper ads and no paper trail. Or moved as you and I have. In some cases more than a couple of moves since purchase.
Don't count on a surplus of ammunition being available for training purposes.
I actually had two former students steal guns from my home. They skipped school and went around to school district employees stealing guns. They did not steal everything. We did not notice the ones stolen. This was 30 years ago. We did not have a comprehensive list. They had worked for my husband and knew our home.
I created “Battle Packs” of my preferred 75gr match load by putting them on stripper clips in bandoliers and food saver bagging them.
“...but I don’t know where any billionaire globalist psychopaths live.”
They have minions, many millions of them. Make it unsafe to be their low-hanging fruit.
I buried guns back in early 90's when I was young and believed in my Nations Politicians. Several years later, when I started digging; I had a hard time finding the one. I dug 4-5 holes before hitting the green pipe; just a thought.
Now that I got most of my life in, watched my country die; I will not meet my maker licking the hands that feed me.
Good idea. Search through the obituaries and write a bill of sale to someone who passed away. Date it properly and keep a copy.
Beta will offer you a sack of groceries for your lead dispenser. Your starving trembling hands will reach for the food.
If you’re not prepared to use it, might as well turn it in now for your $25 Walmart or Target gift card. Because if you’re planning to bury it, you’re committed to never using it.
Burying such a tool does not seem conducive to its purpose.
I won’t give names or location, but a friend did an experiment several years back along this line. Here’s what he did:
He vacuum packed (same food saver bags) an older handgun plus some ammo (9mm, if I remember correctly), then sunk it in the cove near his old cabin.
After a year, he fished out the bag, cut bags open, and loaded the handgun - and it went bang as it should have. I don’t believe he put any silica in, though not a bad idea if it might be buried longer.
I’ve seen ammo stored in various versions of military ammo cans with varying success - usually, the genuine mil-surp cans held up the best to being buried. I would imagine vacuum sealing a handgun and ammo, putting in such a box, and buring might work well (though easily found via metal detector).
Where is the BATF going to get an inventory list? Here in Arkansas - there is no “gun registration”. Yes, I realize that any firearm purchased from an FFL likely has a paper trail somewhere (usually in the dealer’s safe, but possibly the illegal digital trail from the background check - though that doesn’t’ have the serial number).
Now - for the poor saps in states with gun registration... sucks for yall.
Anyone who has used these foodsaver bags knows what you are talking about - I use them for bagging/freezing venison as I process it. Bags either seal well - or they develop leaks - and usually, the leak is evident within a week, even in the freezer. I figure that is why the original poster suggested double-bagging. That’s probably also one reason for the desiccant and 0xygen absorber being included.
Then they cuff you for illegal transfer of a firearm (probably what they will charge folks with who have actually sold guns privately that were originally documented).
I absolutely agree (and for any functional “display”, you should still be proficient in its use, in case!
That being said - the extended ammo shortage has begun to impinge on my trigger time - and while I have handloading gear - components are nearly as hard to come by. I am practicing a lot less than I really would like to.
Another alternative for Long Term Storage for valuables which might be subject to corrosion.
Previously, storage in oil or cosmoline seemed to be the only way to prevent rust and corrosion.
Cosmoline is a heavy petroleum product that after exposure to air, forms a waxy like brown substance which protects metal parts.
Now , this is a new method of offering protection, much cheaper than storage in a vault, or PVC tube.
How to safely store what we'll call "the modern sporting rifle" for the long term. Particularly let's focus on storage in what we'll euphemistically call "environmentally exposed" locations;
that is to say socially and climatically areas of risk to corrosion of metals and valuables.
Much cheaper than a vault or a PVC tube which can be done 'on the fly', as a few of the products may already appear in conventional household,
with just a few amendments and add-ons.
I think the real idea is to not bury ALL of them - but o have enough “cached” in case. It isn’t just about hiding them away from authorities - it’s about protecting the future - by having some available even if the one’s you keep handy were to disappear (theft, law enforcement, etc.).
F’n brilliant!
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